i loved the concept but realized its far from beign accurate
oh i forgot to mention it always jammed afther few shot

i loved the concept but realized its far from beign accurate

Now I have bagged enough chickens with it to disagree (to a point) The peeps work but not well for more than a 20 yard shot. After that I'd be aiming for the body and not the neck. But it is a POS compared to many other choices. Yet I suggest this as a city Bug out option mostly due to it's adaptability. In bad times, those legally in power would use any excuse to punish or disarm you, so concealment and legal issues would make this more attractive than many other options.

RUGER 10/22

The most sold rifle out there! Get yours today!

(I'm likely gonna offend a few with this one......)

- Is it fun to shoot? Not when in it's stock form! If you snap this up to your shoulder for a quick shot, your along way off already... I was made to fit your kids. You have to raise the butt until it is barely on your shoulder anymore just to look down the sights properly. Therefore it needs modifying!

- Are the sights any good? Not really, but this too can be remedied quickly with a red dot or a retical sight. Scopes take longer to acquire the target and small critters move fast....(also by adding this option, it helps correct the other issue somewhat too.

If you spend the money to improve these 2 issues, I then consider it the Cadillac of 22's. It's just a shame that we have to spend so much to buy a basic gun, then chuck parts for other parts to make it functional. Your best bet is to find an old used one and start from there.

Check them out here http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showthread.php/1006597-Ruger-10-22-inventory-GSG-Rotary-110Round-Mag-Back-in-109-99

Mossberg Maverick 88

There are many other shotguns you can choose from but none this cheap and still of good quality! I think that owning any weapon that authorities view as illegal or even restricted puts you on their radar. There are practical ways to work around these limitations.

Get a Mossberg Maverick ($219 Cdn), which is a reliable version of the Mossberg 500, and then install the folding stock ($79 Cdn) for easy short-carry in heavy brush and bush(which is what my area has alot of). The 12 gauge holds 6 but you must plug it to 3(when hunting) to be legal. It makes a great backup gun when baiting bear(as they are more aggressive nowadays due to overpopulation up here). This model has the minimum 18 1/2" smooth barrel and still accepts any other Mossberg 500 barrel. You will have to shoot smooth barrel slugs to be accurate (out to 100 yards) but I'd never use this past 50 yards anyways with this loadout. This is a cheap hunting gun at $350 invested (including 6 round rack attachment and sling), You can buy it all at Cabelas.

Also remove butt pad off original stock and attach to folding stock for added comfort when shooting.

the next riffle i want buy its the vanquish from nemesis armory
but it expensive and actualy i need save money to aquire one
http://www.nemesisarms.com/

Now ya see, that is a pretty Rifle!

I too would like to own a rifle like that but likely never will as it really has 1 purpose....and that's on the range. You wouldn't want to lug that around in the bush as it weighs 12 lbs. An M-14 weighs that and their semi-auto and more versatile all round. I'm scared to ask how much? The M-14 knockoff starts at $600 today, chambered for both 7.62 x 51 and .308 cal.(both economical in their own class). Being a popular rifle means you can buy just about any option to mod it to your needs. And the M-14 is kinda ugly, so it must belong here....

Well Knuckle most of people i know have 12 lbs or more of overweight and they carry themself everyday hehehehe
last years i shoot 3 bullet and hit twice them my hunting season was done whit 3 bullet so i dont see the purpose for semi-automatic
this riffle is around 3000 to 4000$ depend of option
what i like it concealment and the 308 it my favorit round

Can you guys get Russian/Serb/Swiss surplus rifles?
The M98/98K is nice, can be cut down further fairly easily, takes an extreme beating, and makes for an excellent brush gun. I like the trajectory of the 8mmM rounds. It's a 5-shot contained well and a bolt gun, which should keep it fairly low on any recall lists here, but the stripper clip feed means it can be reloaded quickly. I don't devote a heaping ton of "arsenal" ammo space to it, because its primarily a hunting gun (I focus on common domestic-use, domestic-manufacture calibers in large part) but for a long time it was relatively inexpensive (especially compared to .308 soft-tips). The stock is of a size that can be hollowed out for some limited storage, although it's a bit of a shoulder banger as it is and lightening the stock and shortening the barrel makes it more so.
It's right at $200 here now, was <$150-170 taxes and fees or <$100 for a while.

There's a Spanish 1916 Mauser built on the same general basis but as a .308 platform, and it's still available for $150-175 USD for a 6" 100yd open irons firearm.

There's also the 1891/30 in 7.62x54(R). Around here it can be hard to get magazines for them, but they're out there, and the advantage to it is that a good, padded synthetic stock is available. The base rifles in need of a little tuning in some cases, optics and the stock in others can start as low as $125 here and hit $300.

They're all die-hard workhorses that don't mind cold, can be lubed with M14 grease, powder lube, or Rem oil (then cleaned hard and lubed with something else) and although I personally thin the K98/M98 is cute and sexy in various configurations, the fact is, some of them are frog-butt ugly.
For the money, it's hard to get a better multi-purpose rifle these days, though.

For an affordable, fairly compact and lightweight shotgun, I'm a Rem 870 girl, but I've got a pair of Novas for something that I can handle a "master key" round or buckshot in (only 5-10 rounds a year slugs, because it's that light).
We've actually hit about 1/2 to 2/3 clay birds with the ghost ring and prong sights on the 18.5" bbl, and although it doesn't have the aftermarket parts availability, it went about 3 years sitting in a closet to shooting some of those clays, back in the closet, had a dribble of oil 6-12 months later when it came back out to shoot clays again.
Not a problem, not a hitch, not a whimper, just all ugly workhorse. I'd never do that to my $300 Wingmaster.

PS the M14 is not ugly, dude. Old or new, very sexy. The M14 Scout II is sexy as all hell and when it's got stumpy optics and 45-degree offset iron sights, it's a little bit cute.
And so is the 1911, Raging Judge, and Rem 870, so I expect to not see them on this list anywhere. 🙂

Do I hear a fat joke in there somewhere.... 😆 Folding stocks are something every gun should have in my books. As I mentioned, I too would love to have such a gun , but that price tag is way out there when I would still pause if it were in the same $600 class as the M-14. A folding stock for the M-14 is $350 more.

A friend has (2) custom made .265 cal. (heavy barreled)target rifles with a bore twist of 1-turn-in-11.5 inches (looks like an M-24). He has to get ammo custom made for $90 for 20 rounds. It comes with a 30 x 16 hooded scope and tripod. The barrels are often shot out at 1000 rounds due to the high twist. I'm betting he'd part with the new (unused) one for under $800 as he wishes to go hunting now instead of plinking. It's alot cheaper than that Vanquish and likely more accurate too.

Now MrsPrepwPets has this way of making a guys heart flutter....a girl talking guns and making sense like an old hand too! woman, you never cease to amaze me!

I like the Remington 870 fine but my shallow pockets tell me I can almost get 2 mavericks for 1 870. I even shot a clay pidgeon or 2 in my time but their not really "good eating" in my opinion 😆 🙄

I have never figured the M-14 as sexy or even anything close. It's awkward the carry, heavy as heck, and bulky to the max when retaining the "stock"stock. 😀 They have a really long pull on the trigger(as stock), but it's all "sh1ts and giggles" when you start throwing lead from it. It's a no-nonsense, rock solid, lead-farting tool that will outlast most other battle rifles just because it can...at 1000 rounds, it's just broke in! But you hafta admit that Vanquish is sexier to look at....and I deserve at least one purdy gun!

AR-7 Survival Rifle
The Cons
- Is this gun fun to shoot? No, it feels like crap when assembled and your pointing it at your possible lunch.
- Are there decent sights on it? Nope, a stupid, hard to adjust peep sight.(to keep things light)
- Can you mount a scope or red dot? Ya, on a tiny weaver rail but good luck packing it back up!
- Is it ammo fussy? Sometimes, but feed it to it anyways so you don't spoil the little fella!
- Will I use it much? Not if you have another .22 laying around

The Henry versions are better than the Armalite versions (and whoever held the patent for the third manufacturer here - it escapes me), as far as both accuracy and the "secure" feeling after it was assembled, but I agree with the last bit, because anything with those types of pop-together pop-apart studs makes me nervous to be taking down and putting back together.

A guy recently did our Ruger Rimfire Challenge/.22 Action shooting combo (the steel plate + some extras - 6-8 targets with 10 rounds - and basically CAS/SASS stages) with an old AR7. He's normally a top-3 finisher with a stock 10/22 with Aimpoint sight and a stock S&W22A with windowpane optics (don't remember, but he hangs with the 3 guys with a $1K job on a $200 rifle and a $700 pistol with another $500 in triggers and optics). He only dropped to the top 25% instead of a top 3 finish (in the muddy, cold winter; when only die-hard shooters show up).

It's a short-range gun, absolutely, but from the right manufacturer, they're not total crap.

Oh, Oh...I win again, mine was made by Henry

Dang Girl! Are you trying to impress me again? Stating all them stats and all....well ya did! I'd like to brag at this time that I'm often the top shooter at our range...usually cause no one else is there when I go...other than John...he's going on 80 (and close to death) and I take him so he won't die in the bush alone cause he'd go without me! But he counts...and my dog...I outshoot him too!

http://frontierfirearms.ca/chiappa-little-badger-single-shot-rifle-cal-22lr.html

Chiappa Little Badger. Dirt simple single-shot 22 that folds up. It's got rails so you can mount a sight easily. At $199 it's much cheaper than the AR-7 or 10/22 Takedown.

And as I often do, I'll plug the good old Rusky Tokarev pistol. Yes, there are better guns. But for the price of a new Glock you can have 4 Tokarevs. Now instead of one guy with a gun, you've got 4 guys with guns.

And the parts interchange very very easily, so they're very maintainable. I love them.

No see, that's a gun that belong here...it's so ugly, it's cute!

There is alot of practicality in the Little Badger. It shoots .22 shorts(which are getting harder to find). Therefore it makes little noise. Bag something and no one comes running! We always tend to make the shot count when it's the last bullet....being single shot, it is much the same principle, you'll just naturally be more cautious before you pull.

Again , these are stash guns and not likely to get alot of use when you have others laying around that are more fun to shoot. But they have their place and this one could hide where many couldn't.