Search Amazon for Preparedness Supplies:
Notifications
Clear all

Prepper Nurse ISIS Bubonic Plague & Collapse

7 Posts
3 Users
0 Reactions
1,950 Views
(@prepper-nurse)
Eminent Member
Joined: 12 years ago
Posts: 47
Topic starter  

Hi folks! There are reports that ISIS has information on how to make bubonic plague bioterrorism weapons. The technology exists, however it is unclear whether or not ISIS has the skill, resources, and technology to produce such weapons or the ability to deliver them. Bubonic plague can be treated with antibiotics, however even with antibiotic treatment, the death rate varies from 8-15%. Love to hear what your thoughts are on the topic 🙂

Video I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamEL1X5jHU&list=UUcXgySSIBw4CBdJfT8PAbMQ

John Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
http://www.jhsph.edu/research/centers-and-institutes/johns-hopkins-center-for-public-health-preparedness/tips/topics/Biologic_Weapons/plague2.html

CDC Plague http://www.cdc.gov/plague/faq/
http://www.cdc.gov/plague/healthcare/clinicians.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HamEL1X5jHU&list=UUcXgySSIBw4CBdJfT8PAbMQ



   
Quote
(@anonymous)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 11254
 

It is so hard to tell what threat today is real and which is just hype...how many have died of Bubonic plague so far and where? I thought ISIS was strictly terrorist style activity consisting of soldiers and fanatics, not scientists and chemists.

Wasn't it the bubonic plague that the US was digging for in sacred burial sites in the arctic back in the 90's that the Inuit people protested over? They wanted samples to analyze as there was no other preserved examples elsewhere and Canada allowed it for scientific research purposes? I guess that graves everywhere could carry DNA samples but I figured we had the only potential means of reviving this disease and that was scary enough.

I'd guess that Russia has done the same research and should therefore be added to the suspect list, as the development of such as this into a weapon of terror is likely due to research for a larger organization than ISIS. I'm betting that this disease would have otherwise returned long ago if old corpses still contained a live cell to reproduce from. I know that good scientists wish to research cures but there always seems to be some egomaniac to offer financial support with visions of another super weapon for their arsenal of supremacy. I state this as the insinuation that if a Bubonic outbreak were to occur, we are to now view it as an act of terror and not coincidence. So I'm just guessing that ISIS would likely have to acquire this weapon of death from a major power first.

The chances of the using this weapon and eventually having it kill your own people in turn are great as controlling the spread of such a disease is too much in the hands of fate alone. Therefore,if an outbreak were to occur, the primary suspect would most likely be that major power furthest from the outbreak ....yes? But if that nation which was attacked were to respond fast, they could likely contain this spread of disease and then use this attempt at biological warfare to justify a retaliatory attack in turn... it is likely therefore that the real culprit will elude capture and another possibility for war might arise yet!

Seems that eventually one of these threats which we face daily today will be the spark that ignites mankind into another major war.



   
ReplyQuote
(@prepper-nurse)
Eminent Member
Joined: 12 years ago
Posts: 47
Topic starter  

Knuckle I feel the same way. We don't want to ignore real threats, but we don't want to give false ones to much of our precious head space. They have hundreds of recruits from the UK, and it's not clear what their background is. Or if they have enough money they could simply by a bomb from a country that is all too happy to see it used in North America. I see what you mean about an outbreak of plague - if it happens now it would be a terrorist act. It could only return if our society completely fell apart, and sanitation fell apart with it. Very good point about how hard it would be for the terrorist to insulate themselves from the disease. North America is surrounded by oceans, but there would still be plane and boat travel. I think that's why up until now we haven't worried to much about scientists having the information to make this kind of a bomb. But ISIS makes me nervous - they don't seem to have any limits to their barbarism, and might be willing to take the risk even if it meant that some of their people would die. Kind of like Vietnam - they allowed 1 million casualties out of a population of several million, something we would never have tolerated.

And I really like your use of the word spark - it is a small spark that can ignite a huge fire. Thank you for your comment!



   
ReplyQuote
(@endangeredspecies)
Estimable Member
Joined: 12 years ago
Posts: 134
 

in 1918 these type of weapon was dificult to create and manipulate but in 2014 its much more eassyer also the knowledge for such cocktail its not a secret anymore
whit money u can buy anything ...
one of my friend hes programer and hes collection virus since hes 21 years old . he has a computer has home to store virus only just for fun its hes hobby and he know very good about computer virus
thats make me think that maybe someone in the world is collecting real virus and sickness ....whit the adequate knowledge
i think terrorist group dont need much effort to aquire chemical and bactheriological weapon
take a flight to africa go collect a blood sample for ebola virus then travel to get a sample of brain-eater alguea cholera .malaria
Salmonella and Anthrax , Encephalitis , Chikungunya

many of them can be made in ur own basement whit the right tool and knowledge



   
ReplyQuote
(@anonymous)
Illustrious Member
Joined: 15 years ago
Posts: 11254
 

Prepper Nurse, I do like the fact that you don't just psyche folks up without at least having an objective. Your obvious goal is to make people aware of the fact that it is already in the US and then explain signs and symptoms to be aware of. I didn't realize that this was already out there in public as likely many others did either. I try to keep all things in the calm perspective and therefore considered since this wasn't a regular news issue, that it likely wasn't an immediate threat either.

Maybe it's because I got stuck earlier on the H1N1 vaccine turned out to be one of Dick Chaney's investments, that I now seem more skeptical about the threat of diseases. Your video has a least made me reconsider that reflexive action and sit up and take note. My wife is into the herbal medicines and this threat therefore reminds me of a mixture that she makes called "Thieves Oil". Seems alot of thieves had a secret weapon (way back when)that helped them remain free of disease as they robbed dead corpses. There are alot of sites trying to sell you their product of Thieves Oil , but at least this one list the ingredients so those interested can make their own http://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/how-to-make-thieves-oil-recipe .

Prepper Nurse, let me know what you think of this home remedy as my wife too is interested in every aspect of such things and hasn't exactly had to prove or disprove this concoction. Hopefully, if bad times occurred where threat of this illness was commonplace, an ounce of prevention...you know the rest!

BTW, I too try to have create positive impact on others through various means too. I wrote a Food Stores app that not only inventoried your supplies, but helps show how to maintain a balanced diet by tracking the nutritional contents of your stores.
http://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4917&start=10

I would like to know your opinion of it and if there are aspects you feel that I should have also considered. I dropped such as cholesterol content as it turned out that very little food items admit to having them anyways. I get the feeling the majority of people won't even fill in this data and use it to inventory their items only. Anyways, any advice is always helpful and I'm betting your view on nutrition aspects would be worthy of note. Thanks Knuckle



   
ReplyQuote
(@prepper-nurse)
Eminent Member
Joined: 12 years ago
Posts: 47
Topic starter  

in 1918 these type of weapon was dificult to create and manipulate but in 2014 its much more eassyer also the knowledge for such cocktail its not a secret anymore
whit money u can buy anything ...
one of my friend hes programer and hes collection virus since hes 21 years old . he has a computer has home to store virus only just for fun its hes hobby and he know very good about computer virus
thats make me think that maybe someone in the world is collecting real virus and sickness ....whit the adequate knowledge
i think terrorist group dont need much effort to aquire chemical and bactheriological weapon
take a flight to africa go collect a blood sample for ebola virus then travel to get a sample of brain-eater alguea cholera .malaria
Salmonella and Anthrax , Encephalitis , Chikungunya

many of them can be made in ur own basement whit the right tool and knowledge

Thank you endangered species. I appreciate you sharing your friend's hobby - technology has advanced so much, even in just the last 5 years 🙂



   
ReplyQuote
(@prepper-nurse)
Eminent Member
Joined: 12 years ago
Posts: 47
Topic starter  

Prepper Nurse, I do like the fact that you don't just psyche folks up without at least having an objective. Your obvious goal is to make people aware of the fact that it is already in the US and then explain signs and symptoms to be aware of. I didn't realize that this was already out there in public as likely many others did either. I try to keep all things in the calm perspective and therefore considered since this wasn't a regular news issue, that it likely wasn't an immediate threat either.

Maybe it's because I got stuck earlier on the H1N1 vaccine turned out to be one of Dick Chaney's investments, that I now seem more skeptical about the threat of diseases. Your video has a least made me reconsider that reflexive action and sit up and take note. My wife is into the herbal medicines and this threat therefore reminds me of a mixture that she makes called "Thieves Oil". Seems alot of thieves had a secret weapon (way back when)that helped them remain free of disease as they robbed dead corpses. There are alot of sites trying to sell you their product of Thieves Oil , but at least this one list the ingredients so those interested can make their own http://www.smallfootprintfamily.com/how-to-make-thieves-oil-recipe .

Prepper Nurse, let me know what you think of this home remedy as my wife too is interested in every aspect of such things and hasn't exactly had to prove or disprove this concoction. Hopefully, if bad times occurred where threat of this illness was commonplace, an ounce of prevention...you know the rest!

BTW, I too try to have create positive impact on others through various means too. I wrote a Food Stores app that not only inventoried your supplies, but helps show how to maintain a balanced diet by tracking the nutritional contents of your stores.
http://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=4917&start=10

I would like to know your opinion of it and if there are aspects you feel that I should have also considered. I dropped such as cholesterol content as it turned out that very little food items admit to having them anyways. I get the feeling the majority of people won't even fill in this data and use it to inventory their items only. Anyways, any advice is always helpful and I'm betting your view on nutrition aspects would be worthy of note. Thanks Knuckle

Wow I did NOT know about Dick Cheney and the H1N1 vaccine! Thank you for sharing that little nugget! And thank you for sharing your food stores app!!! Woohoo!!

I like your wife's choice of home brew - 4 thieves is an awesome concoction. I make my own 4 thieves vinegar from a recipe by Rosemary Gladstar. I will take a close look at it tomorrow when I'm a bit more awake. I'm guessing it will be an awesome one! Please give my regards to your wife, and I'll post a more detailed response tomorrow 🙂



   
ReplyQuote
Share: