C5s Ultimate BUG OUT BAG and Survival Gun

Glad I'm not the only one. Here are a couple others to add to the reading list:
http://woodtrekker.blogspot.com/2013/09/living-off-land-delusions-and.html
This one isn't so much about the article (same topic, same points) but I'd really like to draw attention to the fourth comment down. I suspect, given the monkey bites at fishing holes, WMA duck islands/stands, and deer lanes on public or open hunt farmland in times without any crisis, that commentor's thoughts are not isolated or singular.

That said, I do actually endorse a 72-hour bag/kit, ideally in the vehicle.
One, it can get you home when traveling.
Two, if you have a wildfire, hurricane or any other need to evac, you already have the basics in and can be ready to launch or grab extra stuff.
Three, if you have a housefire or tornado, there's a chance that vehicle kit can save you some added grief.
Four, when traveling and your debit/credit card people suddenly notice that your card(s) were used three states away but you haven't set up a phone pin and it's 1 a.m. when you realize the cards were cut off for your protection, you have cash and plenty to be comfortable wherever you are.
Five, your cell phone blew up from somebody's new freaking baby, your alternator died, and you're on a dark, deserted road miles from any light or well into a wilderness area at the end of a hunting trip or backpacking trip - a stocked car kit means all is not as bad as it seemed.
Six,for people who are brand new, a reasonable evac bag or kit (FEMA, Red Cross style) makes an excellent starting point for the basics (although personally, I think starting with 2 weeks of fast-cooking groceries is a better choice due to the more prevalent chance of an unexpected bill in today's world).

On the other hand, I will absolutely be one of the ones with a rat trap chained to a tree until all the squirrels disappear and yoyo's in the creek until it's too fouled and empty to consider.

C5, I always look forward to your twists on topics, which is why I click on subjects that don't normally interest me.

Darnit, darnit, darnit!
I wish I had more time to read through this completely, but life called and wants me back!
You know...getting kids registered for school, removing snow and ice from the roof, unblocking the toilet, yada yada yada.
I did get a chance to check it out a bit though...
Tactical Wheelbarrow.....HAHAHA!
From what I did read, this guy pretty much nails it.
Bugging out will more often mean heading to a motel or friend or relative on the other side of town, or maybe a bit further for some cases, but I have never given the wilderness route a thought.
I do have some camping gear ready for bugout, but that's just in case I can't make my destination in one day, or something happens to the vehicle...not a long term thing at all.
I could go on for a while about this, and maybe will some other time, but for now, that toilet REALLY needs my attention.

Its winter, what else do you have to do?? Haha.. Seeds need to be started, sheep need to be milked, cheese needs to be made, Lambs need be born, Its pullet laying season, which means homemade pasta needs to be made, dried and put up.. and I just got a full beef back, so I am curing corn beef, making beef bacon, curing jerky and sausage making is on the menu..

Nothing to do.. ha

But still I did go read the first one.. nodded.. nodded, nodded and agreed mostly but not all, it would depend on the type of SHTF, because to be fair based on history, if it became like the great depression, there were a lot of homeless that also became temp/day workers and I didn't see that talked about at all.

On my hubbies side of the family, in the hardest part, his family sent all three boys off the farm to find day work, and they pretty much lived on the road and worked from farm to farm to farm..

On my mothers side of the family, they were the farm families, and I was raised hearing the stories about folks coming to help work for the day or the days, working for food, working for shelter, working for repairs and parts..

I am not in disagreement per say with the points in the first post.. but I do want to point out, that typically? in history, the unhomed, are often working homeless in a way we don't often talk or think about..

Now I need to get back to work..

I don't know you, I clicked on this because I was curious to see if you were a douce bag prepper. I see you are not. lol
I'm a bug-in kind of person. I have never believed that I would ever have to live in the woods so I have been prepping to be able to stay in my home and be as self-reliant as I can. I carry a Get home bag instead (24 hr mini BOB)

MrsPrepwPets, That article was fantastic. The only thing it didn't talk about was how fast the animal life would be wiped out with unrestricted hunting. The great depression almost wiped out most animals we take for granted. The whole Bambi environmentalist phenomena came about because back in the thirties, you would be lucky if you saw one or two deer in your life and it would be a cherished memory. Deer and turkeys actually did go extinct in many areas and had to be re introduced with the severe management we have today.

Denob, ya. Preppers can be hilariously silly. Those tactical pantyhose still bind up at times

farmgal. I thought I might take some flack on that comment. As for bobs....they have some value. Its just that they are not the magic survival pill as advertised. More a placebo.

Girlcancan. Im glad "douche bag prepper" has become a common language term in the prepper world. I refer to a LARGE number of popular preppers that I regularly just call douche bag prepper for short and title....even though I am fully aware I am often a Meca Mia Mia Douche

I should point out that all this is not an argument for Bug In. The Bug In Bug Out argument often miss the essential of strategic relocation long before the apocalypse is nigh. Ive already moved to my BOL...and occasionally worry I have made myself a modern "Y2K refugee"

Funny how much time he spends telling people not to bug out, then near the end he says you'll die if you stay in the city 🙄

Me I'm already pretty committed to staying here, for better or worse. Provided I can fend off the "hordes" the major cities will likely be first to receive aid, and I can sure as hell survive longer in my warm bed than in the bushes. Could move to the country I suppose, but if I spend 2 hours a day commuting to work, then I've effectively shortened my life already.

This one isn't so much about the article (same topic, same points) but I'd really like to draw attention to the fourth comment down. I suspect, given the monkey bites at fishing holes, WMA duck islands/stands, and deer lanes on public or open hunt farmland in times without any crisis, that commentor's thoughts are not isolated or singular.

Little funny ha-ha senior moment: I forgot the website for this one.
Take II: http://ready4itall.org/the-top-4-reasons-why-youre-not-going-to-survive-bugging-out-to-the-woods/
Again, the fourth commenter is the point there.

Funny how much time he spends telling people not to bug out, then near the end he says you'll die if you stay in the city 🙄

I don't know about our northern cousins, but there used to be a difference between BO and INCH in the various survivor/preparedness circles around here.

Bug Out used to mean leave where you are (I am not staying smack dab between Baltimore and DC or right between LA and San Diego, for example) and go someplace, typically someplace pretty specific (for those examples, my rural weekend farm in West VA or my hunting cabin near Dixie national forest, or a friend's house or the nearby farmer for whom we will be guards and labor to reduce the use of fossil fuels). Bug out used to mostly mean "I can't live there because my spouse has a very specific job that requires us to live a certain fairly populated place (military, brain surgeon, canine oncology specialist, required to be onsite instead of online, something like that), therefore a backup location is needed. That backup location expects us, has supplies, and should a bad thing happen, we can relocate to it."

A BOL used to be something of an evac site. For a real-life example, if a hurricane comes barreling in, I have 3 parks in 3 directions that I can reach and will welcome pets inside the fuel range of my truck and the cans always inside it, and then another 2 parks or hotels that I can afford with cash in the vehicle within another 1/2 tank or 1-day walk. Should something worse happen, a friend in a friendlier area than mine has pillows for all our heads, or I can head west and then south and go to a family property, however, I have to be prepared to walk the last leg or two of that journey if fuel service has been disrupted.

A fair number of us have always shaken our heads at the ones whose BOL was a national park for a duration of more than 3-14 days for a storm to pass (NJ/NY hurricane excepted). They are great skills and tools to have just in case a plane/car I'm in ever ditches in the middle of [your choice: mountain, alaska, Jacob Tree NP, Pacific island] or I manage to break an ankle and be moving much, much slower than usual on a backpacking trip, or my car dies in the middle of a wilderness and I must feed my furry and somewhat less furry family.

INCH is I'm Never Coming Home. When the author repeatedly says "bug out" and "head for the hills" he's mostly selectively speaking about the people who are planning to walk away with a bag on their back and "disappear" into the vast wilds of the country (either country works). I wonder at those people, given what we know about Native American societies, their populations and tribal sizes of agricultural groups and seasonally nomadic groups compared to early-early constant wanderer pre-homosapiens, the distribution of labor, the propensity for trading long before any metal money struck this shore, and a quick look at Google Maps.

There's a difference between "I'm leaving the city to go live off roots and berries with my wife who has never even tried camping and our 5 y/o and will just eat the cat as our last meal at home" and "I'm leaving the city to go to X, Y, Z where I am expected and at least somewhat supplied with options for resupply of the bare-bones basics." XYZ are where some of the various MAGs come into play and the recruitment/seeking of partners shows up.

I'm almost through reading all these links . I have to take another break from it, but felt the need to say , this guy repeats himself alot .

Thoughts. The BOB seems to have a different meaning for everyone, and is it possible it gets some
people thinking wilderness, just by the very name ? Many sites tell everyone to start first with your BOB . When you look at the
stuff on the list , it looks like a wilderness hiking trip gear list.

Perhaps we need to use a new name for the BUG OUT BAG , to ones that are a more realistic description
of what a persons bag is for. It might make people pack them wisely.

evac bag ( I like this as mentioned earlier in this thread )

car bag

dog bag

go home bag / get home bag

P.S. I have not started a BOB yet. I have been working on preps for food, supplies and stuff for my home. I have no plans to escape into the woods.

One more good article from MrsPrepwPets. I laughed at this line.
"facepalm:
Guys….that’s not prepping. That’s schizophrenia, or at best, extremism. Honestly, if you spend all day arguing on Facebook about the best way to place “troops” around your “bugout base camp” to “stalk and take out the sheeple coming in to YOUR woods” you have problems. Please go talk to a professional."

I'm almost through reading all these links . I have to take another break from it, but felt the need to say , this guy repeats himself alot .

Ya. Its one LONG repetitive endurance test. I warned you all at the beginning. That said, I wouldn't replace it for a shorter series. If you can sit through the whole thing...It will effectively beat the issue to death. Might even think of it as aversion therapy.

Buy the way, for those that just read the first one.....don't short change yourself. Go back and read the entire darned thing. The meat of the subject only really picks up by the third one.

exactly .. it beats the issues into your brain

Thoughts. The BOB seems to have a different meaning for everyone, and is it possible it gets some
people thinking wilderness, just by the very name ? Many sites tell everyone to start first with your BOB . When you look at the
stuff on the list , it looks like a wilderness hiking trip gear list.

Perhaps we need to use a new name for the BUG OUT BAG , to ones that are a more realistic description
of what a persons bag is for. It might make people pack them wisely.

evac bag ( I like this as mentioned earlier in this thread )

car bag

dog bag

go home bag / get home bag

P.S. I have not started a BOB yet. I have been working on preps for food, supplies and stuff for my home. I have no plans to escape into the woods.

Great post Goldie,
I might add putting in a portable USB or 1 Terrabyte drives with PDF scanned files of the most important documents that pertain to you. Home insurance, family will, banking documents, family pictures, memories etc.

Based on recent discussions, I've decided to create a new "C5 rule of survival"
I suppose I should post what these rules are. MrsC5 has been nagging me incessantly, lately, to write a book about my story. I'm just not up for it at the moment but it got me thinking about the C5 Rules. I think the back cover should read....
C5 Rule of survival #1- There is no such thing as a prepper expert. Anyone who says they are is just trying to sell you something, whether that's a product, a service, a political or religious position. Trust Me. I wrote a book about it that you will want to buy.
C5 Rule of survival #2- Never trust anyone that says, "Trust Me".

Well, This is my brand spanking NEW, C5 Rule of survival- On Bugging Out. If you go camping for a week...You are a camper. If you camp for Two weeks...You are an Outdoor Enthusiast. If you camp for three weeks...You are an Outdoor Adventurer. If You camp for a month or more...You are a HOMELESS PERSON/REFUGEE.