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(@remington870)
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Good Day:

While, in principle, I do not disagree with you, I do take exception to how you handled the incident. "I couldn't get to my parents house fast enough." First, what if when you got there you had come up against and armed intruder?
Secondly, what if your driving had caused an accident while rushing to get there? This is why we have emergency services.

Just imagine your family and friends watching you on the news because while you were "rushing" to your parent's house, distracted by your concern for their well being, you did not see that child run onto the road after a toy.

Don't get me wrong, your obvious concern for your parents is touching and admirable. Just remember that there can be consequences for your actions.

Just my 2 cents,



   
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ranger2012
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If someone shot with a 38 cal ball bearing from a sling shot, what would they be listed under. So slingshot vs. knife, hmmmm. 😈


"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."


   
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(@c-hiker)
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If an intruder acknowledges that the home owner(s) are present, and continues with their intent course, then it’s turned into more than a robbery. How many gun owners keep their guns where they sleep?

You can still keep the gun(s) where you sleep (in the area) and still be legal and safe. I bet most are locked up in the corner of a basement.



   
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 BOA
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We as Canadian's have already sacrificed way too many of our gun rights. The fact that it is illegal to shoot an intruder in your own home in self defense is a complete joke, this should have never become law. The fact that a legal gun owner needs permission to transport their firearms to and from legally operating gun clubs they are members of is just plain stupid, not to mention that you now need not only a transportation certificate but also a invitation letter from a gun club you do not belong to as well if you want to go somewhere new to shoot. I am betting that most people on this forum don't even know what the AR in AR15 stands for, the most common answers... Assault Rifle and Automatic Rifle.. it actually stands for Arma Lite, the name of the manufacturer. But yet just because it has a military styled body on it this gun is restricted, it's no different than a freaking semi auto hunting rifle for crying out loud. But yet I can go hunt with the hunting rifle version but not one with a military style body kit.. where is the sense in that I ask. Don't even get me started on hand guns and the stupidly outrageous laws regarding those. My point is that the gov't has everyone so convinced that guns and gun ownership is bad that people believe that crap. Now look where we are.. guy breaks into your house and you defend yourself YOU go to jail and YOU are subject to lawsuits by the guy who broke into YOUR house! When are people going to say enough is enough and take back your rights!


Cheers,
BOA.

Just remember.... the Boy Scouts have been saying it for years.... Be Prepared!


   
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(@ottawa613)
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In South Africa, where they have real risk of home invasion, there are neighborhood signs warning of 'armed response'. They are usually attached to the name of a paramilitary security company. I believe it is taken for granted that neighbors who contract external armed security probably have a proactive attitude about castle doctrine self-defence, so the signs should be interpreted accordingly.

In the event of a prolonged disaster, preppers should weigh the options of keeping self-defence covert, or going with an overt show of resolve, i.e. announcing to the world that castle doctrine rules of engagement will apply to hostile intruders.

The situation will dictate.


When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fail, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.
-Edmund Burke, 1729 - 1797


   
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(@remington870)
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If the Federal government is so concerned about us owning guns, why did they scrap the long gun registry? Now there is no way for them to know who has one.



   
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(@northernvvolf)
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If the Federal government is so concerned about us owning guns, why did they scrap the long gun registry? Now there is no way for them to know who has one.

True, to a point. They do know who is licenced for firearms though. Rifles purchased now, a receipt is still required with PAL#, name etc. As a seller, i would be inclined to keep those receipts JIC.


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(@anonymous)
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If the Federal government is so concerned about us owning guns, why did they scrap the long gun registry? Now there is no way for them to know who has one.

True, to a point. They do know who is licenced for firearms though. Rifles purchased now, a receipt is still required with PAL#, name etc. As a seller, i would be inclined to keep those receipts JIC.

Not sure where you are getting your information regarding transfer of non restricted firearms. Quoted from the RCMP website.... "Outside Quebec, when transferring a non-restricted firearm, the transferor (e.g., a seller) 'MAY' contact the CFP at 1-800-731-4000 and request confirmation of whether the transferee (e.g., a buyer), at the time of transfer, holds a licence authorizing them to acquire and possess that kind of firearm."
The capitalization of the word 'may' is mine and I did so to accentuate it. There is no requirement that states you need to log a PAL number or the name of the individual who purchased it and to keep that information on file. If I am incorrect please let me know as well as showing the relevent legal passages. Thanks

JAB



   
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(@sensretractor)
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Amazing whats happening in the US...

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/07/us/georgia-gun-requirement/index.html?hpt=us_c2



   
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(@anonymous)
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I read that and it says it is mandatory to own and maintain a gun......... unless it is against your beliefs. Go figure. 😕



   
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(@northernvvolf)
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If the Federal government is so concerned about us owning guns, why did they scrap the long gun registry? Now there is no way for them to know who has one.

True, to a point. They do know who is licensed for firearms though. Rifles purchased now, a receipt is still required with PAL#, name etc. As a seller, i would be inclined to keep those receipts JIC.

Not sure where you are getting your information regarding transfer of non restricted firearms. Quoted from the RCMP website.... "Outside Quebec, when transferring a non-restricted firearm, the transferor (e.g., a seller) 'MAY' contact the CFP at 1-800-731-4000 and request confirmation of whether the transferee (e.g., a buyer), at the time of transfer, holds a licence authorizing them to acquire and possess that kind of firearm."
The capitalization of the word 'may' is mine and I did so to accentuate it. There is no requirement that states you need to log a PAL number or the name of the individual who purchased it and to keep that information on file. If I am incorrect please let me know as well as showing the relevent legal passages. Thanks

JAB

I have never had someone call to confirm, nor would I. Rem870 said there was no way for them to know who owns a long gun. I just think (my opinion, quoted from my brain) that most CFO's would believe if you have a current PAL, you own at least one rifle.

If you would like to argue interpretation with the RCMP and/or judge, be my guest. I think I would like to be able to prove due diligence if I ever needed to.


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(@remington870)
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If you sell to someone who does not have a PAL, you would be in trouble. I, keep a receipt with the person's name and PAL number, just in case anything happened with the firearm. If, at the time of sale, they present a valid PAL, I have done my due diligence. Yet, there is no obligation to keep these records and I know guys who don't.
Don't forget, less than 1% of the violent crime in this country is committed by legally owned firearms. You stand a higher chance of being killed by your significant other using a frying pan.



   
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ranger2012
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Women prefer poison, no blood, but if all else fail the 10" frying pan and/or marble rolling pin will do. 😈


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(@remington870)
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LOL, well said Ranger.



   
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(@northernvvolf)
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I suppose if the imprint of the pan is across the face and not the back of the head, you could claim self defense. Wouldn't be hard to slip a sauce pan into their hand before the cops show up either 😉


One day, the lowly farmer will be King


   
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