Does Ontario have any unorganized milita groups ?

The probability of this type of group organizing in Canada is quite low.
The word militia essentially means unofficial army.
The idea of a group of Canadian preppers organizing to provide relief efforts after a disaster is a good one, and quite doable.
However, the idea of armed citizens guarding looters etc after an event just wouldn't work.
Watch how fast the government would institute martial law and disarm everyone in that area.
You just can't walk around armed and claim you are protecting people here...it just wouldn't fly!
Unarmed groups providing medical assistance, shelter, etc. = good idea and possible.
Armed militia providing security against looters = not a good idea and if they did appear, would be dealt with quickly by law enforcement.

If anyone is prepared to step up and help people in case of a disaster providing medical assistance, shelter, or just even moral support they should seriously consider their local chapter of the Red Cross. This is a tremendous organization and their name is synonymous with providing aid and relief in times of need.

If I recall correctly back in the '90's when Militias were thing thing, there was an attempt by some locals to start one. After some inquiries and research into the legal code, it was deemed that it would be illegal to form a militia.

It's probably better if regular folks joined up with local agencies. First, it can't really be the 'enemy' if there are good regular folks in them to counter the bureaucrats that ruin things as they are perceived now. 2nd, those agencies have massively more resources and sources of training to draw from then any grassroots will ever have.

The key thing that should be in mind especially amongst those many people who, for lack of a better word, oppose the government and those agencies appointed by it...we are that government and those agencies. We the public enable that those exist. By refusing to put the effort into fighting stupidity or downright wrongdoing on even a local level we ALL consent to having the way things are be done to us and all that we hold dear. It concerns me that many times I have brought up a grievance amongst a group of parents and although they agree with me whole heartedly, I'm the only amongst that group that speaks out about it. One person complaining is just a kook with a big mouth. It's up to the others to lend their support...and most importantly their voice...to the effort.

Do not be so sure. Dig deep.
Henry

Biker gangs, but their organized. I wouldn't trust them as far as I could spit.

I think if shtf really bad then yes, i agree that martial law would be in effect but with no long gun registry I doubt if guns could be taken unless you were walking on your front sidewalk with a shotgun. I was just curious actually because after watching a special television show on militias in the USA, it seemed like every state has a few of them. I wouldn't leave my familar unprotected if shtf unless I knew they were completely safe, and even then, I wouldn't be able to return if I was shot, which would leave them vulnerable. If shtf, I do think it eould be a smart decision if you lived in a city or the suburbs and were involved in a neighbourhood watch close to home.

I think eventually we could form a map of canada with locations for what group of preppers operated in what area.

Not specifically but generally.

So say within the St Catharines, Thorold area we would have group X & Y So that if there was an issue you could try to use that as a basic name for anyone from that area as ID and eventually have them join together for common goals. Futhermore you could then know who to ask for if you were in that area.

Any help from a sociology major would help.

Yes. They do exist. There are groups of preppers that meet weekly and have invested tens of thousands of dollars collectively into their resources. I can't say what they plan to do if SHTF because they border on unethical practices but I can say that these groups are very committed with tight plans. They're also highly anonymous.

I would have to agree with Che on one point...there are some very unsavory characters within the prepper community.
however, are these the militia groups originally described in this thread?
I don't think so...the intention of the militia described was honorable, though perhaps misguided.
Let's play what if for a second...
What if a major disaster happens on the streets of, oh, let's say Toronto.
The power is out all over town, and even farther,
supply trucks cannot get fueled up to deliver relief supplies,
you know how it goes...the unprepared start to loot stores and break into homes in search of food, water, and whatever they think they could sell for a few bucks later on when things settle down.
A group of armed citizens starts patrolling the streets guarding against these invaders.
How long do you figure before the LEOs bear down on them and disarm them?
How long after that would martial law be instated?
My bet...within hours!

however, are these the militia groups originally described in this thread?

You're correct. I read this thread too quickly. I assumed Militia entailed the negative connotations associated with prepper groups. There was public group in Toronto that made a brief presence called the Guardian Angels ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guardian_Angels ). That's the closest thing I can think of.

I don't know of any personally with a preconceived notion on a large scale in mind where SHTF scenarios are concerned. Isn't that the role of the government? To protect and provide for citizens in a time of a disaster? I doubt these types of Militia groups exist but I'm sure some people have good intentions. People will indeed help each other out as they always do during a disaster. There's something within some of us that an inherit sense of for the greater good.

Preppers might be a little different. I don't see many preppers offering their resources unless the other parties have something of value to offer in return (I.E. Doctor, Engineering Skills, Gunsmithing Skills, etc.). You can't feed everyone and it's not your fault that they failed to prepare.

Coincidentally, I have an upcoming event on the most sought after bartering items during a disaster which indirectly relates to doing the right thing from an individual standpoint rather then from that of a Militia. While researching this I quickly came to some unsettling conclusions. For this presentation I've broken things into categories. One category is Resources required for the necessity of life. These are things that people cannot live without. Outside of our 4 main competencies: Fire, Water, Food & Shelter were also looking at two additional factors from a prepper standpoint. Namely: Security and Medical considerations. Resources like anti-biotics, insulin, Epipen, medications (Cholesterol, Cardiovascular, Heart)
and asthma inhalers will be very powerful bartering items. People will die without these items. Because some preppers may have stockpiled items like these (now) as a means of using them for bartering - this begs the question: Is your intention to retain your excess resources (food, water, security, medical) only for bartering purposes or are you willing to assist and give up resources for humanitarian efforts?

As a personal example, the thought of stockpiling baby formula for bartering crossed my mind but I don't have the heart to not help out a mother (or father) if I had such an expendable item where they had nothing of value to give in return.

I agree with IPN. If shtf in a place like T.O. and a neighbourhood watch were walking around with shotguns, then LEOs would take their guns off the street, no matter if intention was only to prevent looting. However, if there was a serious widespread shtf senario that effected the entire country, or the world for that matter, such as a seriously powerful solar flare that knocked out all of the worlds power grids, causing a serious, worldwide blackout, then it would be possible that LEOs would not confiscate guns from people/groups with good intentions. Given Canada's small military, and taking the size if our huge country into account, its possible that LEOs could look for some help. I don't know the proper term, but volonteer deputy's is what I mean. Odds are, the military would be split up and whats left of it would be in the major cities with a population of 250,000 people or more. The military would be really stretched thin because quite a few troops would be staying home for their families own safety...same goes for LEOs, I would imagine. Smaller cities and towns would likely need the help from law abiding citizens that can arm themselves. If widespread looting and other crimes were happening, then LEOs would be desperate for help. If a police officer cannot put fuel in his/her squad car, and communications are down, along with the power grid, then it would be pretty difficult for LEOs to patrol and travel to neighbourhoods to neighbourhoods, or town to town. There would need to be people protecting neighbourhoods on a 24hr watch. There is an awful lot of small cities and towns with only a handful of LEOs in them, and the LEOs would be unable to do much to protect people if they are outnumbered 500 to 1, or more....

This type of senario with "volonteer deputy's" would not be necessary if shtf was localized to one city, but if shtf was widespread throughout the entire country, then I think the only possible way for law and order to be maintained, would be if LEOs looked for help from armed neighood watch's, by local law abiding responsible citizens. Without help, they would be so greatly outnumbered that martial law could'nt be enforced.

I know my comments here aren't exactly to the point of the question asked in the topic, but I wouldn't want to be patrolling around dark streets with other dudes with guns, good intentioned or not. If you go looking for trouble, eventually you'll find it. Sometimes that trouble can come from the group you joined specifically to keep you out of trouble. Like, what if your militia group needs something you have, like your food for example.

Blueflash, contrary to what you post, any military personel staying home to care for their family during a domestic war-like operation would be subject to summary execution according to war-time regulations and law. Be careful when suggesting such opinions. I suspect LE personel would not fair much better. Lui

Yup, such groups do exist and they keep it all very hush-hush and they'll never refer to themselves in a military term.

In Canada, they don't even have to gather publicly or mobilize to be on the RCMP's watch list. If they ever do mobilize or gather (armed) for any reason they'll have RCMP & CF all over them so fast their heads won't stop spinning till after they're on their duffs, in cuffs.

Canada is quite forgiving for many things, but the second you name your group in a military fashion and bring firearms into the mix, prepare to meet the hammer of "sound government".