I finally got my P.A.L. (firearms) license today in the mail.
It took almost 6 months to get it, I took the courses in Feb of this year.
For any of you that feel a Zombie deterrent is a required item for the prep list, if you don’t have your license by now you better get moving.
Good luck finding a course that is not full. When I was searching back in Feb, every instructor I called within 60km was booked for the next 4-6 months. I just happened to find a local instructor who had soo many calls he decided to switch from once a month to weekly courses. In conversation with him he said in the 20+ years he had been instructing there has never been a surge of applicants like this. He jokingly said "It must be the whole 2012 thing". I just smirked and said, "ya, could be".
Personally im not looking to acquire an arsenal but I like the idea of having some sort of deterrent should the shtf. In the bug in scenario it will most likely be only myself, my g/f and her 2 kids. I don’t feel my baseball bat, golf club or giant butcher knife will scare 5 or 6 hungry zombies enough that they say "grumble grumble, meh not worth it, lets hit the unarmed tree hugging peta member down the street.
I truly believe no prepper is fully prepped until they have the means to defend their preps/family/home.
We hear all over how prepping is like having home insurance, car insurance, life insurance, well what insurance do you have for your preps?
Everyone knows in a worst case scenario good people will be forced to do bad things for their family. Soon I will feel a little more comfortable that I can help these people decide that it might be a better idea to try somewhere else.
P.S. I’ve had the firearms saftey handbook for a few years, I have been interested in trying some skeet shooting and migrating to some small bird hunting. SHTF is not the main reason I got my license, but it did finally get me off my butt to go and do it.
Congrats
Guns are adicting. And they are like tools - they each have a specialized function (although I would argue something like a shotgun can do many tasks quite well). I just bought a Rob Arms xcr. Looking forward to logging some trigger time.
wow thats a 2400$ rifle nice grab! I would try to get one myself if it came in a bigger caliber then .223 (atleast thats the only caliber i have seen it in) until then i think i will buy a sks investors pack for 1600$ that way i got plenty of spare/replacement parts should something go wrong, still beautiful rifle regardless, and congrats spinkx on getting your pal! did you get restricted or non restricted?
spinkx79 - can you message me the guys name - the one who does the weekly courses? We've been procrastinating on this one!
What did you think of the course? Reasonably straightforward?
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This thread finally got me to look around for a course. Unfortunately, here in Quebec, there are plenty of french courses to be had. I do speak french reasonably well, but for something as important as this, I would prefer english. Anyway, I found one in August, about a 2 hour drive from me. $71.00 which includes to book and exam. I'll be calling to book my place later today. I also didn't realize that it took 6 months to get the PAL! Oh well, no guns under the christmas tree this year!
Good for you guys for getting on this!! Thumbs up.
Something else you may want to consider are Antique firearms. Here in Canada is quite easy to find antique firearms which require no registration and no PAL. I plan on picking up a handgun or two that is 'antique' status at some point. It is a huge loophole in the gun system... for more info check out:
http://www.nofac.ca/
http://www.firearmscanada.com/?s=antique&sa=search&scat=0
Here in Ontario Ellwood EPps also has a section on their webpage for antiques.
isnt that antique clause only for blackpowder guns before the year 1890 or something? i remember asking my instructor if you found a gun that took cartridges and was made before the specified year (1890 or whatever) could you obtain it without a license and he said no as any firearm that takes a cartridge would still be considered a modern style firearm, so it had to be blackpowder. Of course this was just what i was told if someone could find the actual laws on this i would be very grateful, just so i could know for sure! thank you for the links CP those are some pretty interesting revolvers on that one link, might just have to get one....or two lol 😉
Many of the decisions that make a firearm an "antique" are based on the availability of ammunition. Rimfire pistols in other than .22 are usually antiques since there is no commercial ammunition made for them. "In Canada, antique firearms are defined as any firearm that was manufactured BEFORE 1898, including handguns with barrels LONGER than 4", that has an ignition system of wheellock, matchlock, flintlock or caplock design. There are some cartridge rifles that are included in this classification- however, the ammunition and calibre used CANNOT be a commonly manufactured or purchased ammunition (eg: .45 centre-fire ammunition used in the 1911 .45 ACP- but the .41 Swiss Vetterli ammunition can't be found ANYWHERE in Canada, and is considered an antique), or the ammunition is obsolete. Any firearm EXCLUDING HANDGUNS manufactured AFTER 1898 that has an ignition system of wheellock, matchlock or flintlock design is STILL CONSIDERED AN ANTIQUE, however as indicated in the previous sentence, the ammunition cannot be a commonly manufactured or purchased ammunition.
Read more: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Do_you_need_a_fac_in_Canada_for_blackpowder_guns#ixzz1z6c8cAj2
Thank you all for supporting firearms ownership in Canada.
The government knows how many people own and shoot and it does show when they repeal laws due to public pressure. Strength in numbers n all that.
You just got your P.A.L? Congrats!
Now I must lure you to the evil side of good guns deals. MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
How about a Chinese Military SKS for $75? Deal is you buy 1440 rounds of military surplus ammo for $285 and you get the gun for $75.
I just got one. Only issue is that it's completely covered in cosmoline so the gun has to be disassembled and cleaned. Which is fine, it's the cosmoline that kept it in brand new condition. Company is called Marstar. here's the link: http://marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=74819
It's better to prep for something that may never happen than not prep for something that does.
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Nice rifle, I see it comes with the bayonette too!
HOWEVER, my needs are simple...
12 guage pump
.22 lever or semi auto
hunting rifle (caliber yet undecided)
How well would this package fill my hunting needs...
Wooded area, with some open fields...
up to 300yrds range
whitetail deer, some small bear, rarely moose.
Nice rifle, I see it comes with the bayonette too!
HOWEVER, my needs are simple...
12 guage pump
.22 lever or semi auto
hunting rifle (caliber yet undecided)
How well would this package fill my hunting needs...
Wooded area, with some open fields...
up to 300yrds range
whitetail deer, some small bear, rarely moose.
It would fill it well. The 12 gauge can shot anything from tiny birdshot to big honking slugs.
If you want to hunt bigger game with the hunting rifle in Southern Ontario, you can only go up to max caliber .270. Otherwise stick with the shotgun with slugs, they are actually quite accurate to 100 yards plus with the right sights.
When you are up north you can hunt with a bigger caliber and if you're hunting big game way out you'll want a bigger caliber rifle. I have an old Lee Enfield which shoots the British .303. Although If I hunted up north I'd probably go with something with even more oomph like perhaps a .300 winchester magnum or something - Savage makes affordable lever action hunting rifles that can accept the bigger calibers.
As far as the .22, I have a Ruger 10/22 semi auto and i LOVE IT.
It's better to prep for something that may never happen than not prep for something that does.
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spinkx79 - can you message me the guys name - the one who does the weekly courses? We've been procrastinating on this one!
What did you think of the course? Reasonably straightforward?
I got mine threw OST ( Ontario Security Training ) though they seem to have the classes in scarborough. Good side is that seats/ spots are usually available for weeks in advance. the cost is 260$ before tax after its 284$ and something cents. Its a two day coarse that covers both non restricted and restricted firearms, the course was informative for me at the time and was more then reasonably straightfoward. from what i recall they cover safe storage of firearms and ammunition, safe handling of firearms, safe loading and unloading of firearms, plus afew extras. The coarse exams are written multiple choice and true are false and then a physical exam where you show the instructor the proper ways of handling and loading a firearm ect. the pass rate is 99% one person failed in my class as they didn't show the second day for the exams so he was the 1%. me personally i got 98% on the non restricted and 96% on the restricted, and i am not by any means the brightest light bulb in the tool shed. here is a link for their class schedules, just find the date of the class, go to contact at the top of the site, then phone them to secure your seat at the next firearm safety coarse! link below
http://www.ontariosecuritytraining.com/security-training-course-calendar.php?comp=3
I agree with the 303 being a great hunting round for big game in Ontario.... great for deer and sufficient for bear and moose. Only problem is ammo costs.... $26.00 for 20 rounds... you really want to factor in ammo cost when you buy a rifle. Could make a huge deal. SKS ammo on the other hand is a steal especially target/defensive Full metal jacket rounds. 30-30 is a decent deer round... and about $20.00 a box