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(@pacmanpackslight)
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first off, renfrew county is a pretty big area but im not a fan of telling people where i live, im 21 and have just recently begun to explore the world of prepping, at first i was on the road to be an armchair survivalist (ive read enough to figure out that isnt the type that i want to be, i want to live not starve to death in a cabin full of guns and tactical flashlights)
i am working towards prepardness through a 20 dollar a week type of plan,
i understand the basics,
canned beans, rice, pickled vegtables,
light and heat, etc.
but im looking for advice on things i may not have thought to purchase/make
i rent and have roommates so i am trying to do this all without having them become too wierded out untill i can a place of my own
any and all advice on things i should pick up, things i should stay away from early on that may look but are not actually that important is welcome,
thanks

brandon



   
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(@ratdogmom)
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A good flashlight.
A high-end pocket knife or multi-tool (Gerber brand is very nice, Leatherman brand is reliable middle of the road according to my tradesman husband)
You can get small hand crank radios at Canadian Tire...they're the size of a paper back book
Headlight lamps come on sale all the time at Canadian Tire...I think those are worth the money (well under $20 when on sale) http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/3/HouseHome/SafetySecurity/Flashlights/PRDOVR~0653015P/Energizer+Hardcase+Pro+Headlight.jsp?locale=en
Buy and extra bottle or three of OTC pain killers...(I'd go one aspirin, one naproxen (Aleve) and one Ibuprofen and just by generic and as large a bottle as you like and go for long expiration dates ...Walmart/Zellers/Shoppers Drugmart have good store brands)
Buy something like Gravol and Immodium (again, generic is fine...Life Brand version of Gravol is very good value)
Basic first aid kit and a bottle of rubbing alcohol and / or peroxide
Toilet paper and some paper towels...maybe a pack or two of baby wipes.

A bottle of multi vitamins....generic is fine and watch your BB/expiration dates.

Food items...don't know how big a stash you want to have...I think you can easily store 3 months worth for one person under a bed, maybe even 6 months worth.
I'd go with dried beans as you get more return on the space they take up. Lentils can add a bit of variety.
Dried fruits and vegetables take up the least space. Dried apricots, raisins and prunes you get in big economical bags at Costco/Walmart.
Canned vegetables...I'd stick with canned pumpkin, canned tomatoes, spaghetti sauce and sauerkraut...very little wasted space in those cans and they're nutritionally dense.
Canned tuna/salmon/flakes of "protein" because you can slide these under a bed easily, out of site or stack them in a box in the bottom of a closet.
Buy pre sweetened powdered drink packets that have added vitamin C...something like Tang...you can use these as a fruity beverage or to sweeten tea in place of sugar

If you want to be able to make biscuits/pancakes you'll need some leaveners and flour...baking soda and baking power don't take up much space...three months worth of those and maybe some vanilla and packets of herbs and spices will fit in one of those plastic shoe boxes you can buy at Walmart etc.(I like these for storing packets of things in, keeps rodents out).

Buy a few extra boxes of salt...you'll want to season rice/pasta/breads etc

You are going to need sugar or honey..sugar for 1 person...easy enough...a few extra 2Kg bags stash easily out of site
Tea/coffee/coffee whitener
Try and keep at least 3 days worth of drinking water...you can get a 15 l jug of water for around $5 ( I think it's Sobey's that have them on right now for $2.99)

Toothpaste and soap ...watch NoFrills...they often have Colgate on for $1 a tube and multi bar packs of decent soap on their $1/$2/$3 sale flyers.
Laundry soap...there always seems to be one brand or another on loss leader pricing this year. Figure out how many loads a week you do and plan accordingly.
Dishsoap...go with better quality dishsoap...you use less as it's concentrated more so you don't need to stash as much.
Shampoo...cheap dishsoap will work for shampoo if your budget is tight...I buy our shampoo at the dollar store and it's a brand name not an off brand.


I'm the lady you're stuck behind in the grocery store with the over loaded cart filled with cases of tuna, peanut butter, huge bags of rice and the weary looking husband


   
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(@perfesser)
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Depending on where you're living, I would start the things that will matter for the long term. Learn to grow things. Learn what you can find that grows around you.
Learn to cook with basic ingredients, not out of a can.
Learn what is in season locally and learn to use it. This time of year it's going to be mostly root vegetables, carrots, parsnip, beets, sweet potato, turnips, squash, cabbage and the like.

You can easily have some rice to cook but it isn't very nutritious alone. Toss in some commonly found greens to the mix, plantain, dandelion, spinach and a bit of protein like a can of tuna and you have a meal.
Containers of freeze dried food (like a gallon can of spinach, maybe $20) go a hell of a long way, take up little space and are almost as good as fresh.

You can store some basic grains like rice but learn to "doctor them up" with healthy stuff. When I go to the cottage alone, I might take a pack of ramen noodle soup stuff but I'll also take a green onion or 2, some collard green leaves, a carrot, and some dried meat like biltong to doctor up a nice meal. Mostly I stay away from any processed food though. I know most times I can find garlic I've planted, (garlic chives any time) wild leeks, cat tail sprouts, fiddleheads or whatever might be around at that time of year.

It's the skills that are most important, not the stuff you buy. You might have to make a fire once a month, or dress a wound once a year but you have to eat 3 times a day. You most important skill will be to feed yourself. Nutrition is health and a sharp mind.
If you can learn to grow at least some of your own food, it's easy to scale that up to whatever garden space you have.



   
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(@pacmanpackslight)
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wow im going to have to add a few things to my list,
i was focusing on canned goods but dry beans and such makes much more sense,
thank you both for your suggestions.

i am hoping to stash 6 to maybe 9 months worth of food, and possibly a years worth of the things i cant grow, gather or trap, i know some basic living of the land kind of stuff, and i manage to get out on lots of little day and overnight trips to improve my bushcraft skills but some things are hard to find in the wintertime, and my main goal is to see through a winter and at least part way into summer growing season, thats where the skills im trying to learn come in, in the spring im going to by some seeds and see what i can grow in a small patch, i dont have a ton of space so im hopeing to learn some skills i can apply to a larger area if i have to get out of dodge and have a bit more space to work with.



   
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(@perfesser)
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Beans, wheat and rice are true survival food. They'll keep you alive but not very healthy. But they are cheap, you can store a lot for little cash. Meat and vegetables are where the nutrition is.
I have some rice, wheat, oats, etc but I don't eat a lot of them as a part of my regular diet. Mostly meat and vegetables, fresh or frozen. Most of my stored long term stuff is #10 cans of freeze dried vegetables. At least enough for 1 winter.
They're fairly cheap and if the supply chain breaks down and it's hard to get fresh veggies it will still be fairly easy to get the stuff governments keep in reserve, wheat, corn, rice (the stuff of gruel).
Get some experience with growing plants, it takes a few years to get the hang of things, start small, don't overwhelm yourself. Plants like swiss chard, kale, collard greens are easy to grow and packed with nutrition and the bugs don't bother them much.
Understand about improving the soil, begin to compost your waste, look for piles of wood chips from trimming operations and get them for mulch around the plants so you don't have to weed. It's all free, pay for almost nothing.
The really tender stuff are subject to pests but it's all part of the game. Plenty of stuff grows wild or has become neglected, orchards that have become subdivisions, rogue apple and pear trees, wild grapes. Keep your eyes open, harvest when you can.
Grow herbs too, pests don't bother them much either and they'll liven up all your dishes. The more you cook with them the better you'll get. Almost all herbs have some medicinal use as well, eat em regularly and stay fit and strong.



   
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(@canuck_prepper)
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Good for you for embarking on the prepper lifestyle. One thing you might want to consider - with your current situation is a way of cacheing some gear/supplies on some of that great crown land in Renfrew county. Or maybe try to group up with a survivalist in the Renfrew area who can store some gear and provide some mutual support. Good luck.



   
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(@pacmanpackslight)
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thanks! i have been looking into storing some gear on that crown land, im not comfortable with some of those more costly to buy things however i have found a few spots to start a little patch of potatos, never know it could save my life right? i would have to find someone in this county that i was comfortable entrusting some of my gear with, i have someone in mind but i need to find out if all the canning and preserves they do is for enjoyment or prepping, probably prepping. i dont know to many guys under 30 that enjoy pickling eggs and making vinigar as a hobby,



   
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(@2012compatible)
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My home town is near renfrew, il be up there this weekend to do some ice fishing. Good to know there is a fellow ''prepper'' in the area. I dont know how much I would trust leaving stuff on crown land, most of it is used extensively during the hunting seasons up there and by guys like me on atvs looking for a good place to hang a tree stand. but if you want to find a good hiding spot lookup into the hills not in the low lands. there are lots of rock out cropings out that way, there has to be a couple good little caves you could use. At least thats what I would do.


:twisted:I`m not carzy everyone else is!:twisted:


   
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(@pacmanpackslight)
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yes it is! i was worried i was the only one in the whole county from the way people are around here, im not actually in the city of renfrew, one of the smaller towns a bit north, and yes that is a worry, as i said im not a huge fan of leaving anything in the bush, i suppose i could even bury a 4 foot section of 8 inch pvc and mark the location but i would want to find a perfect spot before commiting too much, it wouldnt do to have my last resort 20 feet from a pond and arrive to find it surrounded by the kind of people that one would avoid...



   
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(@mamaizzy)
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Welcome to the group!
My great grandmother is from Renfrew county, I am not too far away.
One of our absolute favorite places to explore.
Basics we started with:
We have 3 hand crank flashlights, no need for batteries ever! And 2 others in BOB bags... just in case.
Multi tool is a MUST!
A sharp knife for hunting/survival. I have one that folds up and one that is in a case and sharpens everytime you take it out or put it in the case. I love that knife.
hand held can opener
Peanut butter, tuna, beans and fruits and veggies for canned stuff. That's the place I tell most to start.



   
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(@2012compatible)
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Im in renfrew county south west...... on a lake...... that all im posting on here my friend... I wouldnt burry anything, if you spend the time and really look you could find a good little hole that would be all your own out there. i know of a few as i have spent a lot of time in the bush up there! you just have to look. get off the paths and trails and find them. Plus it would be a good excouse to do a few extra camping trips this summer and fall. If you hunt you can keep your eye open during small game season, i cover alot more ground dring small game season chasing those birds all over and i have found a few nice spots like that and a few abandon hunt camps! good bug out locations!


:twisted:I`m not carzy everyone else is!:twisted:


   
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