My husbands semi serious guess-timation is that approximately 5-10 years post shift small communities surrounded by homesteaders will have popped up. The communities will consist of typical wild west style towns...with a dentist, a doctor, a blacksmith, trading post, bank, hotel saloon, butcher...that would sell wild harvested meat and locally raised meat.There would also be a smoke house.
A small school on the outskirts of the town, a locally elected sheriff and a jail. By the way my husband thinks he was born 150 years too late and is very imaginative. LOL....

Personally I'd like castles and dragons.and of course knights in shining armour...(game of thrones) LMAO
(WITH MODERN MEDICINES of course) 🙂

LOL Love the middle ages, time of Shakespeare, Elizabeth I and mead was the beverage of choice but, I don't like rats.... sooooo I am hoping those lil critters dont make it through the SHTF.
My kids and I talked about this the other night. I think it will be similar to the 1900's. My son even went as far to list off who he thinks would not make it or who would be stupid and end up burning down their house or freezing to death over something ridiculous.

Thinking of lil house on the prairie style towns and set ups for homesteads seems like the worst case scenario (or lack of a better term). I doubt much would change immediately, it would take months or even years before the demographic and locations would change much.

Lil house on the prairie would be great 🙂 realistically i think thats more or less what it will be like.

Well it is very hard to predict as there are so many variables and it would depend greatly on the causal event. I would guess that in a worst case scenario a sort of late 1800's existence with a strange mix of some modern technologies. Very Sci- Fi in context but life would be very hard. However I truly believe that recovery would take less than three generations.

So, how many chemist would be out there, that could an produce a Surgical Anesthesia if the power disappeared. When they run out, would you under go a surgery without one, knowing the pain that you would have to endure.

History of Surgical Anesthesia
Only a few surgical procedures were available before the mid-1800s. Little was known about diseases or how to prevent infection. There was also no satisfactory anesthesia available to put the patient into a deep sleep and allow doctors to perform unhurried operative procedures. Certain means of reducing surgical pain had been available since ancient times, however. These included such drugs as alcohol, hashish, and opium derivatives.

Read more: Ether - used, first, anesthetic, body, produced, history, History of Surgical Anesthesia, Nitrous Oxide and Anesthesia http://www.discoveriesinmedicine.com/Enz-Ho/Ether.html#ixzz1xiiypbuq

So true Ranger. Time was, that the measure of a surgeon was how fast they could amputate a limb. Old surgical knives were curved and they would cut through the flesh in 2 sweeping cuts then saw through the bone. Some were able to complete this in less than a minute. The stump was then cauterized and sterilized with hot tar or pitch

Sorry ranger2012 I can't quite follow your logic. Yes there would be some chemists and there would be some power that is unless the laws of physics changed. We would not have our "wonderful" health care system, that is for sure but organized groups would have a medical system in place.

The level of expectations would be much altered after TSHTF. Yes there would be a medical system in organized groups. That said the resources would not exist for the intense level of care we can provide now. Heroic measures and life support would not be realistic IMHO. We would go back to a common sense level of health care and with severly limited resources choices would have to made on what and how to treat. Triage would take on a whole new meaning.

Scary stuff eh?

It goes with the saying what doesnt kill you will make you stronger, mentally or physically or both .....and all the other cliches...yada yada...:)

kinda wish i knew a doctor who was into prepping lol... I would hate to have a limb amputated with a saw while awake.. geesh, made me quiver!

A typical healing period for a successful surgery back then was 1-2 years. That is if you didn’t die from, blood poisoning from dirty instruments, infection or sepsis. Remember, no antibiotics back then, germs? microscopic bacteria...fantasy. The only reason to clean instruments was too wash the blood off from the last victim…um , patient. “Its in God’s hands now, or it was the will of God that he didn’t recover. At least some of the Civil War Surgeons? Use to carry Marigolds in their pockets, that they used as an anti-inflammatory/fungal agent.

One way of making Ether, was to combine alcohol and sulfuric acid. How and in what quanities, I'm not sure.

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