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(@farmgal)
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http://www.saffireblue.ca/shop/packaging/mylar-bags

For smaller scale use, are these good or bad prices on the bags, looking mostly at the 1kg, and 3 kg prices, but like the 500 gram ones as well for putting away homemade herbs and spices.

I am not looking for huge one that can do the big 5 gallon buckets, 5 pds or under size and would perfer to support ontario supplier if possable.


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(@taliesin96)
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http://www.saffireblue.ca/shop/packaging/mylar-bags

For smaller scale use, are these good or bad prices on the bags, looking mostly at the 1kg, and 3 kg prices, but like the 500 gram ones as well for putting away homemade herbs and spices.

I am not looking for huge one that can do the big 5 gallon buckets, 5 pds or under size and would perfer to support ontario supplier if possable.

i have a supplier in scarborough here is a sample of thier prices and sizes.

070752 2.4"×3.1" (6×8cm) 100pcs/pack $3.5
070754 2.8"×3.9" (7×10cm) 100pcs/pack $4.0
070756 3.1"×4.7" (8×12cm) 100pcs/pack $5.0
070758 4"×6" (10×15cm) 100pcs/pack $6.0
070760 4.7"×6.3" (12×16cm) 100pcs/pack $7.0
070762 5"×7" (13×18cm) 100pcs/pack $8.0
070764 6"×8" (15×20cm) 100pcs/pack $10.0
070766 6.7"×9" (17×23cm) 100pcs/pack $14.0
070768 8"×11.8" (20×30cm) 100pcs/pack $20.0
070772 11.8"×15.7" (30×40cm) 100pcs/pack $38.0

if your interested pm i.ll give you thier info



   
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Feel free to post the link here: I'm interested too.


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Taliesin96 - those are the best prices I have seen yet, please post the link as I am in need of Mylar Bags at the moment
thank you in advance



   
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Taliesin96 - those are the best prices I have seen yet, please post the link as I am in need of Mylar Bags at the moment
thank you in advance

here you go, they also do vac bags and machines

http://package.asc365.com/index.asp?ID=ST438



   
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I hate to burst everyone's bubble but I don't think these are the mylar bags. They aren't advertised as mylar and the prices are too good. Mylar doesn't vacuum seal as the material is too thin/slick. You can't connect it to a food saver or other device to suck the air but with these bags you can. I would be skeptical for any long-term food storage solution using these.


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You might be right for long term 10 or 20 year storage but as I am only looking for short term six months to a year, two on the outside, these will no doubt work excellent for what I want from them and will cost a fraction of what I had been looking at otherwise..


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I hate to burst everyone's bubble but I don't think these are the mylar bags. They aren't advertised as mylar and the prices are too good. Mylar doesn't vacuum seal as the material is too thin/slick. You can't connect it to a food saver or other device to suck the air but with these bags you can. I would be skeptical for any long-term food storage solution using these.

your wrong these are mylar secondly you cannot vac seal these inless you use a piece of foodsaver to make it work if anyone likes pls see the pic at flickr below.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/93128361@N05/

this company is chinese everything they sell they bring in from china,



   
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Thanks for the picture links, I am sure it will work just great with my own vac seal..


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Thanks for the picture links, I am sure it will work just great with my own vac seal..

you have to cut a strip of foodsaver to stop the mylar from being sucked together and won,t vac seal.



   
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your wrong these are mylar secondly you cannot vac seal these inless you use a piece of foodsaver to make it work

I disagree. These bags are a Chinese knock-off of mylar bags from what I can see at face value. There's a little more to the manufacturing process and chemical structure of polyethylene terephthalate (mylar bags). The Chinese are notorious for cutting corners so that they can provide prices like these. They may look the same but I don't think they are. When I called they had no idea what mylar was. I've never seen mylar this cheap (and trust me I've been searching for years). The only logical conclusion is a degradation in quality which in turn would not make them suitable for long-term food storage.

you cannot vac seal these inless you use a piece of foodsaver to make it work

When did I say you couldn't? I know a bit about this process. I find it odd that they advertise them as Aluminum Foil Vacuum Sealing Bag. This would insinuate that you can seal them but most importantly they don't have the word mylar anywhere within that page.

But I'm always up for a good debate, especially when someone points out that 'I'm wrong'. So, I've contacted a mylar bag manufacturer I know in the US to get his opinion on whether or not these bags from China constitute or have the same qualities of a real mylar bag.


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your wrong these are mylar secondly you cannot vac seal these inless you use a piece of foodsaver to make it work

I disagree. These bags are a Chinese knock-off of mylar bags from what I can see at face value. There's a little more to the manufacturing process and chemical structure of polyethylene terephthalate (mylar bags) and the Chinese are notorious for cutting corners so that they can present a reduced price. They make look the same but I don't think they are. When I called they had no idea what mylar was.

you cannot vac seal these inless you use a piece of foodsaver to make it work

When did I say you couldn't? I know a bit about this process. I find it odd that they advertise them as Aluminum Foil Vacuum Sealing Bag. This would insinuate that you can seal them but most importantly they don't have the word mylar anywhere within that page.

But I'm always up for a good debate, especially when someone points out that 'I'm wrong'. So, I've contacted a mylar bag manufacturer I know in the US to get his opinion on whether or not these bags from China constitute or have the same qualities of a real mylar bag.

well you can debate yourself i don't have time to. people can try them or not, it does not matter to me. All i did was answer someone looking for help, since you know so much why didn't you answer her.

|And it really comes down to this you can get some and send them to a lab to test them then say you know or well you know the rest.



   
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since you know so much why didn't you answer her.

No need for sarcasm my friend. No need for a pissing match either.

1. I said I don't think they are mylar bags and have pointed your some pretty compelling reasons why.
2. You said I'm wrong.
3. I said I would contact a mylar bag manufacturer.

I'm not trying to bash you or your source at all I just want to know the truth - that's all. When I hear back from the manufacturer I'll post his response here.


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np sarcasim not intended



   
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Here is the response from a manufacturer:

Could be yes. Mylar is really just a trade term. There is no such thing as a true "Mylar" bag. Our Mylar bags are PET/Foil/Poly barrier bags. If you are using these bags for food packaging I would make sure they are food safe first. Our bags are food grade because of the PET.

I'm sure the Chinese knock-offs are food grade to some extent but this leads me to be concerned about the types of plastics used to the make the bag. If it contains HDPE (high density polyethylene) as opposed to PET (polyethylene terephthalate) from traditional mylar bag sources then the plastic contains BPA. While HDPE is approved by the FDA for food grade materials such as buckets and the inner lining of cans it can still leak BPA. While HDPE plastics leech smaller amounts of BPA compared to other grades/types of plastics this is still bad stuff that I don't want my food touching for the next 30 years. PET (polyethylene terephthalate), which are the only type of plastic contained within the mylar bags that I get, do not contain BPA.

So the next move is to contact the company directly and ask them. I'll post their response here.


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