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(@2012compatible)
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It has been talked about in many threads on here and people have shown interest so Im going to put it out there.

I would like to buy a large tract of land in northern Ontario as a bug out destination/wilderness retreat. If any of you are interseted in sharing in this please let me know with a PM or just answer here. I would demand it was a leagle thing with all names of particpants on the property docs and that all would contribute their fair share. Trust is an isue I know so it would take some time but at least we could try to take a step forward in the direction we want but can not afford to do alone.


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(@ruffinit)
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What area are you considering?


Until you do what you believe in, you don't know if you believe in it or not.
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(@logger1)
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I have also been looking for some properties also ,to put up a camp ..I have brought in 12 tractor trailer loads of large white pine for building a loghome for me partner and myself and family ,when they bring the grandkids up for visits. we are losing our home to the MTO ,AS from the widening of Hwy # 69 .thought of maybe doing a log home building coursce as well this spring. I might be interisted in a joint venture on a pice of property as well PM me ..Logger



   
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(@captain-ahab)
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My wife and I have been considering exactly the same thing. We have tossed around the idea of buying a large piece of property, a 150 acres or more and then selling off 5 to 10 acre parcels to like minded individuals. There are many pros as well as many cons to consider with people living in close proximity to each other and I guess it would be up to the individual person or family to see if the arrangement would work for them.
I like the idea of being able to pool resources as well as the strength in numbers should unwanteds come visiting, but the downside has to be examined in detail as well.
How many people/families were you considering and what type of “community" were you looking to establish?


Noli Illigitimi Carborundum
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(@perfesser)
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Here is a possible route.
In 1960 or so my father founded a Club. This club became a corporation, members(8) of the club held shares in the corp. The Club bought a 100 acre farm with maybe half good land, a small river, the usual wetland and some bush.
One area is designated as "living area" where you can build your own cabin and there's a common building, you're respectful of others here, do what you like anywhere else.
If anyone wants to leave, they sell shares back to the club, their dwelling is their own problem. As long as a stampede doesn't leave at once the others can absorb the cost.
Even today, farms can be had for $200K or near there.

It's not perfect,there's no owner, board of directors can be good or bad. Lots of times you have to work at getting along.
The more luxuries you have the more complicated it gets. We have nothing, no water, sewer or electrical service. On the upside, we have nothing to pay for or to fail.
And I'm good at living with no power at all. Nothin' new here.

50 years later the second generation is passing the shares on to a third.



   
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(@bushman)
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I have had similar thoughts for quite some time pooling resources would make something like this more feasible / affordable.There appear to be many parcels of land availible in the Peterborough ,Port Loring, Muskoka, New Liskeard Thessalon areas.Anything south of these areas seems to be to expensive.The land in my opinion should have enough wood for heating/cooking, a good water supply indoor plumbing would be nice (this is perhaps the most difficult and expensive thing to provide) an agriculturally usable area enough off grid electricity to make life bearable , highspeed internet (cabin fever).The post about the long slow grind expresses my concerns fairly closely. I,m thinking that a property thats isolated but not to isolated would be good i.e on a year round road and not more than 30ish km from a town/hardware store.I look at Land on Mls online and some other sites.I don,t know if an old existing building on the site is worth it or not.Most of all a realistic approach/plan concerning the cost and effort of such a plan would be important. The legal issues involved are not clear to me perhaps a co-op/corporation would be the way to go.



   
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oldschool
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I would love a retreat but unless you move before the SHTF I don't see how I could make it out of the city to get there.

MLS doesn't have many listings. I found that hunting, fishing and land without houses show up more when I do google searches.



   
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(@captain-ahab)
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If you wait until the feces fly’s then it probably will be too late. Putting together a co-op, club or whatever you want to call a community of like minded preppers needs to be started ASAP. It could work out well for some people if they bought into the “Club” and came up to prepare their acreage on long week-ends, summer vacations etc. They would not have to give up home and job until the time was more advantageous.
It is great to talk about prepping and where you would like to live and how but there comes a time (better sooner than later) when a decision needs to be made and steps taken to ensure that you and your loved ones have a place to go when it comes bug out time.
That is one of the reasons that my wife and I are making our decision as to where in Canada we will stay and begin preparing for the possibility of disaster.
On the Internet I have seen lots of great looking places in northern Ontario but to see them on-line and then check them out in person are two different things. That is why we are taking our truck and 5th wheel across Canada and spending most of the coming summer in N. Ontario. We have looked at a few places here in BC that could work well but want to make sure we are getting exactly what we want/need and by this fall we will know.
We would look forward to and I am sure enjoy meeting and talking with other preppers as we travel if the opportunities arise.


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oldschool
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Thank you for your response Ahab. You confirmed what I thought.

I guess I am out of luck with bugging out. Due to the events in my life at the moment, it will be close to 3 years before I can do that. 😥



   
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(@northernvvolf)
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If you wait until the feces fly’s then it probably will be too late. Putting together a co-op, club or whatever you want to call a community of like minded preppers needs to be started ASAP. It could work out well for some people if they bought into the “Club” and came up to prepare their acreage on long week-ends, summer vacations etc. They would not have to give up home and job until the time was more advantageous.
It is great to talk about prepping and where you would like to live and how but there comes a time (better sooner than later) when a decision needs to be made and steps taken to ensure that you and your loved ones have a place to go when it comes bug out time.
That is one of the reasons that my wife and I are making our decision as to where in Canada we will stay and begin preparing for the possibility of disaster.
On the Internet I have seen lots of great looking places in northern Ontario but to see them on-line and then check them out in person are two different things. That is why we are taking our truck and 5th wheel across Canada and spending most of the coming summer in N. Ontario. We have looked at a few places here in BC that could work well but want to make sure we are getting exactly what we want/need and by this fall we will know.
We would look forward to and I am sure enjoy meeting and talking with other preppers as we travel if the opportunities arise.

Agreed, except I think the s is already starting to splatter the fan! There is a group of 'homesteaders' that are meeting every so often here and it's our intention to have an association of sorts to have others to rely on as things get worse. For instance, one homesteader broke his arm (actually the cow did it for him). Having friends he could call helped him get their barn up before it got too cold. There are extremely few Rambos and lone wolves that can/will make the transition.

If you do make it to NWO this summer...let us know when and maybe we could do coffee. There are 9-11 of us that meet regularly to share info and ideas, shoot a few rounds, work a project maybe... and later, if we're lucky...have some home-made mead and wine.

NW~Sudi vaga


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(@captain-ahab)
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Hi oldschool:

You are never out of luck. You need to keep the faith and keep looking around on this site. Even if you have to wait three years until you are “fully” able to bug-out you can still do lots of things that will help you and yours be and get ready. I hate to see anyone feel that they are out of luck and would be more than willing to talk with you privately if you chose to help explore your options.
As I said, keep the faith but also stay strong, focused and determined. May God bless.

Hey NorthernVVolf:
I would enjoy nothing more than to meet and share a cup of coffee when we drive east. When troubles come, in whatever form they take, there is usually nothing better than having friends to assist you.
Nice to hear from you.


Noli Illigitimi Carborundum
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(@2012compatible)
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Sorry i have not been back to reply i have been north bound for the last few days. I'm really not planning anything or how to do it, if your interested we should all get together and figure it all out. it would give us a chance to get to know one another and im sure we can sort out the details in a manor that fits us all.

As for the size of tract of land it depends on howmany of us there is and what all we want to do with it, again needs to be discussed with all. i think a common building is a must as well as some large storage sheds. good hunting and fishing is a must and out of the way. im looking to get something as far north as i can. i thing the further the better.

I have a wife and 3 sons and i know if shtf i could not go it alone so i think it wold be best if we were in a comunity of people to make surviving whatever happens possible, especially if buging out is necessary. if planned biging out in a group would be easy. there are more ways to travel then just roads this i know very well. i have traveled from pembroke ontario to barrie ontario and never traveled a single road. I will be buying land no matter what but i would prefer to do it as a group.

a group camping trip for a long weekend would be good as well to start things off. i dont want to rush but i would like to get things started before summer.

PM me and i will get back to you.


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(@perfesser)
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Hey wait a sec. Who says anyone is going to have to "bug out"?

I just don't see it as an inevitable stage in the coming days. Hell, if it does come to that I have a few acres that you could pitch a tent. I would rather have some of you known entities rather than some refugees, especially of you're willing to help out with security if nothing else.



   
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(@2012compatible)
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what if you do have to bug out? and i think the further you are from the city the better! you guys make your own decision im not saying you have to do anything but if you intrerested let me know. Im buying land north this spring alone if i have to so its up to you if you want in or not.


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(@perfesser)
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I apologize, I didn't mean to hijack or taint the spirit of your thread.
Your thinking is exactly the reason we have our multiple owner remote property. A number of people with shared interest had the courage to act. You're trying exactly the same thing.



   
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