Starting new communities

Welcome LeroyRod and greetings from Northern Ontario. Tribalism is as old as mankind and history has shown us that it works. Larger groups are better than smaller i.e. 5-10 for a number of reasons; manpower, skill sets and especially security. However for "new " groups 35 adults (not counting kids) seems to be an optimum number. Having group with large numbers for the interim before sustainability could be reached would be a logistical nightmare. The larger groups may develop later.

Thanks ICRCC! Glad to be here. That seems to make a lot of sense. And I guess the 'interim' could be a while. Has there been talk in Ontario of networking these smaller groups? Or is the general feeling to remain anonymous, hidden and completely independent until things have shaken out a bit?

i belong to a mostly US based online group that shares a lot of info. . . that group has been around on the Internet for as a private site since Mar 1999. the online group has met in large numbers for many events, week long camp outs, i've been to two of the large ones (over a 100 people) and a smaller one in Maine. it networks people from all around the US, Canada and a handful in Europe.

out of this large group, smaller teams have formed, some with a handful of people others with larger number (35 members plus families) some have failed for many reasons.

i got all of us on that site in Ontario talking a few years ago. the first attempt at making a team failed. the second try was much better. we had 7 working together online, a few left the online group, and were then unable to use our private chat program, so they were gone. others left for personal reasons, others moved away. our goal was to provide support when needed in any way needed. we had members in medical professions, contractors, computer people, people that could fix or make anything. . .it was a well rounded group, families were on board but life is dynamic and with a charter member moving across the country, we are now down to two!

we took YEARS to cement our friendship, we got to know each other, worked on projects together, met up every few months for a day of learning. . . we did a large group project to make sure we were all on the same page. it was a minimum travel list, "if you show up at my place, you better have x, y, z with you" sorta thing. we wanted to help each other, but screwing our buddies in bad times wasn't something any of wanted to do. so we made a list and gathered the supplies.

we live far apart, so this type of thing was a good first step.

but i would rather have a community of preppers near by. some have talked about buying big groups of land. (i know a few "teams" that did this, it didn't work, nothing happened, people got screwed) and these teams were friends before they bought the land.

i want to work with good people, i can handle some difference of opinion, character issues, i'm sure i have some too 😉 but if i'm going to be working side by side with someone when all hell has broken loose, if my family is going to be in their presents, i'm not willing to have anyone that i don't know and trust to the end!

i'm a very trusting person, i work hard to get along with everyone. . . but i'm not risking my families safety on anything less then complete and utter trust. i have a few friends (sadly they live too far away) that prep, and i could drop the wife off, and KNOW they would keep her safe for me.

i can prep while times are good, i can garden, i have lots of food, water, alt power, fuel, heat, and a good shelter, i'm not going to risk that to work with unknown people.

my advice is get to know the people you are working with very well before you show too many of your cards. i believe strongly in building a good team, having a good network of preppers to work with outside of your team. . . it DOES take a community, and you should know who's in that community before you sign up.

keep working at it . . .

thanks Entropy, great post. I think you're right. Technology is great for making introductions and finding people of like mind, but until you start spending a lot of time face to face, you can't form community. I was hoping to attend the get together at Richter's today, but wasn't able to make it. But I definitely will try to make it out to the next one. Has anyone attended any get togethers in Toronto?

i belong to a mostly US based online group that shares a lot of info. . . that group has been around on the Internet for as a private site since Mar 1999. the online group has met in large numbers for many events, week long camp outs, i've been to two of the large ones (over a 100 people) and a smaller one in Maine. it networks people from all around the US, Canada and a handful in Europe.

out of this large group, smaller teams have formed, some with a handful of people others with larger number (35 members plus families) some have failed for many reasons.

i got all of us on that site in Ontario talking a few years ago. the first attempt at making a team failed. the second try was much better. we had 7 working together online, a few left the online group, and were then unable to use our private chat program, so they were gone. others left for personal reasons, others moved away. our goal was to provide support when needed in any way needed. we had members in medical professions, contractors, computer people, people that could fix or make anything. . .it was a well rounded group, families were on board but life is dynamic and with a charter member moving across the country, we are now down to two!

we took YEARS to cement our friendship, we got to know each other, worked on projects together, met up every few months for a day of learning. . . we did a large group project to make sure we were all on the same page. it was a minimum travel list, "if you show up at my place, you better have x, y, z with you" sorta thing. we wanted to help each other, but screwing our buddies in bad times wasn't something any of wanted to do. so we made a list and gathered the supplies.

we live far apart, so this type of thing was a good first step.

but i would rather have a community of preppers near by. some have talked about buying big groups of land. (i know a few "teams" that did this, it didn't work, nothing happened, people got screwed) and these teams were friends before they bought the land.

i want to work with good people, i can handle some difference of opinion, character issues, i'm sure i have some too 😉 but if i'm going to be working side by side with someone when all hell has broken loose, if my family is going to be in their presents, i'm not willing to have anyone that i don't know and trust to the end!

i'm a very trusting person, i work hard to get along with everyone. . . but i'm not risking my families safety on anything less then complete and utter trust. i have a few friends (sadly they live too far away) that prep, and i could drop the wife off, and KNOW they would keep her safe for me.

i can prep while times are good, i can garden, i have lots of food, water, alt power, fuel, heat, and a good shelter, i'm not going to risk that to work with unknown people.

my advice is get to know the people you are working with very well before you show too many of your cards. i believe strongly in building a good team, having a good network of preppers to work with outside of your team. . . it DOES take a community, and you should know who's in that community before you sign up.

keep working at it . . .

I have been asked a number of times on here if I wanted to meet somewhere and I have always said yes. Nothig happened. I am of the same mind as you but I am willing to make an effort to get to know a person. thank you for putting in to words what I think.

Well Classy,
the next time I am going to Cambridge to stay and help the Folks out, I will post enough in advance to make a group meeting, that way perhaps if I am away up North, I might ask someone to go and check on the old folks for me, in an event situation.

We are the same opinion too, as they say that three is safety in numbers, but depending on the issue at hand big groups could pose an issue too. We are currently looking and will be meeting one couple next week.
TO wildernessReturn-Let us know too, we live in Cambridge, (if its ontario you refer too lol) then we can meet up somewhere too share some ideas see what we can come up with

I have been asked a number of times on here if I wanted to meet somewhere and I have always said yes. Nothig happened. I am of the same mind as you but I am willing to make an effort to get to know a person. thank you for putting in to words what I think.

i went down to Virgina to meet over 100 preppers i met online (twice), there i met one of my best friends, he's in Tn. i've been to his place a few times now, when i go, a group of 25 people show up and we have a great time, food, preps, family and talking. he's helped me to no end with prepping. he's helped me find/fix and maintain CD rad gear, he got me a LEGAL check source to test them, he's done countless hours of education on things he has way more EXPERIENCE (not just book knowledge been there done that) the list goes on and on. many of my closest friends are preppers i've met online. i've been in many of their homes, i've hung out with there kids, i've shoot with there kids (i trust them enough to let their kids have firearms around me, and they trust me enough to be left alone with there kids (i don't leave my dogs with people lol). . . but people i've met online)

there is ENDLESS benefit to meeting preppers. i've only met a couple that were batshit nuts. . . and i've met 150+ face to face, more then once, that were the "best people i've every met" there is honour among preppers.

but there is exposure too, and my plan is to keep my family, and some friends alive and safe during bad times. . . if every joe blow knows i prep because i stuck my neck out too many times, i'm going to be feeding them and there kids.

what's the guy in the next office going to do when he find out you have food, and his 3 year old daughter is crying because she hasn't eaten in two days? he's going to ask nice. . .ONCE!

there is risk in people knowing you have stuff. . . not in good times but in bad! and that's when you want to know (very very well) the person knocking at your door. people can do really good things to help each other out, but they can do bad things when needed.

i TRUST my prepper friends with my life (the ones i'm closest too) i also trusted my family with my "secret". my brother told his buddy the drug dealer that i have guns and silver coins (maybe gold too) well dumb ass brother. . . do you really think i want a drug dealer, and his drug dealer friends knowing i have firearms and silver coins? this is my blood family. . . my sister in law was told "might want to prep" and her plan is to come to my house, empty handed. . . well she's now divorced, her ex knows "i prep", where i live. . . i'm i feeding him too?

my point is yes you need to network, no all prepper relationships will be golden, you might meet your best friends, necessity breeds "something" lol (bad at quotes this morning) my friends are good people looking for the same, we can work together. but my family can't be trusted to keep their mouths shut.

you have to stick your neck out to find people, don't stick it out too far until you KNOW that your family and info will be safe in those you share it with.

and hangout with people willing to prep to the same level as you.
if your goal is 3 months of food and security, and there is 2 you each have 2.5 months of food. . . because in time of need you'll likely want to help out your friends. i stock extra food though, because i know i'll be feeding others, it just won't be good food for those freeloaders lol

I am currently on 100 acres of land near the town of utterson ,Im very interested in joing up with some good people and buying a large property near timmins or north of there.Ive got a few people and we just need a few more with various skills such as medical or nurse training and or any construction trade.Bushcraft and or hunters would be good as well.Write me in your looking to be a part of a group who all help one another while still having your own space to do your own thing,your own way.If your not aware of the NWO Aliens and or the Illuminati then another group would be better for you but If you want to get out of the matrix and be close to nature and learn skills that will benifit you and those your with then this might be for you.Write me and come visit where Im at....