Using fish Antibiotics for longterm storage

hey, little girl has an infection so i just went to pick up her antibiotics and i know the pharmacist quiet well so i just asked her. she stated animal/ fish antibiotics will not have the same, if any effect as human anti biotics. also you run the risk of serious allergic reaction because they put stuff in their that for instance won't kill a dog, but will drop a human....so keep some adreneline on hand. she also told me paracetamol is like cyanide to Guniea Pigs...that is one theory I can disprove.... 😈

that is absolutely NOT true.
you can't lable something Flagyl and have NO flagyl in it, the same you can't lable something has having sodium but it not being real sodium. salt is salt, potassium is potassium. flagyl is flagyl.

the ONLY risk to fish antibiotics is that they "COULD BE" feed grade, which means that they likely were the things sweep off the floor, or that they could have additives that are not good to humans.

all the info i have on these, there is NO DIFFERENCE.

the CPS gives a list of all meds that have been shared with the editors of this book (most companies want their meds advertised to doctors!). but this will include pictures of that med and the markings on them. if a med is LISTED and has a PICTURE with those MARKINGS they can NOT BE DIFFERENCE. any MED THAT LOOKS THE SAME will be the SAME. this is a safety standard. gerneric meds may have different markings but they will be listed as well.

i have only come across one antibiotic labled for "fish" that was difference in appearence. therefore the all the other medications were identical to the human form. the only worry i'd have of there diffence at that point is that they were picked up off the floor. but the info i can see on this still states they are UPS grade meds.

THIS DOESN"T MEAN yOU SHOULD GO BUY THEM!!!!

read my post back there on the dangerous of using antibiotics without the approval of a doctor.

the following is a taken from an article written by a Retired Surgeon, it was posted on Survival blog, and i'm sure it's on his own site. "Doom and Bloom"

Doctor's Thoughts on Antibiotics, Expiration Dates, and TEOTWAWKI, by Dr. Bones

For evaluation purposes (and because I am an aquarium hobbyist), I decided to purchase online a variety of these products and found them to be identical (unlike some Dog and Cat medications) to those used to treat humans with a doctor’s prescription. I was able to purchase them without any demand for medical licensure, etc. The drugs are listed below and the bottles list the antibiotic as the sole ingredient. They are:
· FISH-MOX (amoxicillin 250mg)
· FISH_MOX FORTE (amoxicillin 500mg)
· FISH-CILLIN (ampicillin 250mg)
· FISH-FLEX Keflex 250mg)
· FISH-FLEX FORTE (Keflex 500mg)
· FISH-ZOLE (metronidazole 250mg)
· FISH-PEN (penicillin 250mg)
· FISH-PEN FORTE (penicillin 500mg)
· FISH-CYCLINE (tetracycline 250mg)
These medications are available usually in plastic bottles of 100 tablets for much less than the same prescription medication at the pharmacy (some come in bottles of 30 tablets). The dosages are similar to that used in humans, and are taken two to four times a day, depending on the drug. The 500mg dosage is probably more effective in larger individuals. Of course, anyone could be allergic to one or another of these antibiotics, but not all of them. (Note that there is a 10% cross-reactivity between "-cillin" drugs and Keflex, meaning that, if you are allergic to Penicillin, you could also be allergic to Keflex). FISH-ZOLE is an antibiotic that also kills some protozoa that cause dysentery.

NOTE: It should be emphasized that FISH-CYCLINE [and other tetracycline antibiotics of various names] can become toxic after its expiration date, unlike most of the other medications listed. So consider acquiring the other ones listed, first.

Which brings me to a question that I am asked quite often and to which my answer is, again, contrary to standard medical recommendations but appropriate in a post-TEOTWAWKI environment where no medical care is otherwise available. The question is: What happens when the medications I stockpiled pass their expiration date?

Since 1979, pharmaceutical companies have been required to place expiration dates on all medications. Officially, this is the last day that the company will certify that their drug is at full potency. Some people take this to mean that the medicine in question is useless or in some way harmful after that date. With few exceptions (tetracycline being one previously mentioned), this is what I delicately term as “a bunch of hooey”!
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what i like about this article is that it does point out that there are cross allergies (many do not) and that the cycline meds because toxic after expired and can kill you! (again of the three i have written by doctors, this is the only one with that warning)

don't buy these drugs without education PERIOD!

hey, little girl has an infection so i just went to pick up her antibiotics and i know the pharmacist quiet well so i just asked her. she stated animal/ fish antibiotics will not have the same, if any effect as human anti biotics. also you run the risk of serious allergic reaction because they put stuff in their that for instance won't kill a dog, but will drop a human....so keep some adreneline on hand. she also told me paracetamol is like cyanide to Guniea Pigs...that is one theory I can disprove.... 😈

that is absolutely NOT true.
you can't lable something Flagyl and have NO flagyl in it, the same you can't lable something has having sodium but it not being real sodium. salt is salt, potassium is potassium. flagyl is flagyl.

the ONLY risk to fish antibiotics is that they "COULD BE" feed grade, which means that they likely were the things sweep off the floor, or that they could have additives that are not good to humans.

all the info i have on these, there is NO DIFFERENCE.

the CPS gives a list of all meds that have been shared with the editors of this book (most companies want their meds advertised to doctors!). but this will include pictures of that med and the markings on them. if a med is LISTED and has a
PICTURE with those MARKINGS they can NOT BE DIFFERENCE. any MED THAT LOOKS THE SAME will be the SAME. this is a safety standard. gerneric meds may have different markings but they will be listed as well.

i have only come across one antibiotic labled for "fish" that was difference in appearence. therefore the all the other medications were identical to the human form. the only worry i'd have of there diffence at that point is that they were picked up off the floor. but the info i can see on this still states they are UPS grade meds.

THIS DOESN"T MEAN yOU SHOULD GO BUY THEM!!!!

read my post back there on the dangerous of using antibiotics without the approval of a doctor.

the following is a taken from an article written by a Retired Surgeon, it was posted on Survival blog, and i'm sure it's on his own site. "Doom and Bloom"

Doctor's Thoughts on Antibiotics, Expiration Dates, and TEOTWAWKI, by Dr. Bones

For evaluation purposes (and because I am an aquarium hobbyist), I decided to purchase online a variety of these products and found them to be identical (unlike some Dog and Cat medications) to those used to treat humans with a doctor’s prescription. I was able to purchase them without any demand for medical licensure, etc. The drugs are listed below and the bottles list the antibiotic as the sole ingredient. They are:
· FISH-MOX (amoxicillin 250mg)
· FISH_MOX FORTE (amoxicillin 500mg)
· FISH-CILLIN (ampicillin 250mg)
· FISH-FLEX Keflex 250mg)
· FISH-FLEX FORTE (Keflex 500mg)
· FISH-ZOLE (metronidazole 250mg)
· FISH-PEN (penicillin 250mg)
· FISH-PEN FORTE (penicillin 500mg)
· FISH-CYCLINE (tetracycline 250mg)
These medications are available usually in plastic bottles of 100 tablets for much less than the same prescription
medication at the pharmacy (some come in bottles of 30 tablets). The dosages are similar to that used in humans, and are taken two to four times a day, depending on the drug. The 500mg dosage is probably more effective in larger individuals. Of course, anyone could be allergic to one or another of these antibiotics, but not all of them. (Note that there is a 10% cross-reactivity between "-cillin" drugs and Keflex, meaning that, if you are allergic to Penicillin, you could also be
allergic to Keflex). FISH-ZOLE is an antibiotic that also kills some protozoa that cause dysentery.

NOTE: It should be emphasized that FISH-CYCLINE [and other tetracycline antibiotics of various names] can become toxic after its expiration date, unlike most of the other medications listed. So consider acquiring the other ones listed, first.

Which brings me to a question that I am asked quite often and to which my answer is, again, contrary to standard medical recommendations but appropriate in a post-TEOTWAWKI environment where no medical care is otherwise available. The question is: What happens when the medications I stockpiled pass their expiration date?

Since 1979, pharmaceutical companies have been required to place expiration dates on all medications. Officially, this is the last day that the company will certify that their drug is at full potency. Some people take this to mean that the medicine in question is useless or in some way harmful after that date. With few exceptions (tetracycline being one previously mentioned), this is what I delicately term as “a bunch of hooey”!
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what i like about this article is that it does point out that there are cross allergies (many do not) and that the cycline meds because toxic after expired and can kill you! (again of the three i have written by doctors, this is the only one with that warning)

don't buy these drugs without education PERIOD!

my bad buddy...i didn't explain it the way she explained it too me....i really don't know how to describe what she described...ok, take an M & M....the peanut ones not the krappy dark chocolate ones....they have peanut in them...agreed? and they're covered in chocolate? agreed? now say the peanut is the thing that makes you better, the antibiotic....well we can eat peanut M & M 's all day long, it will do us no harm....however, make a dog do the same and it will die....not because of the peanut (antibiotic) but the chocolate....well antibiotics are a very small amount of what makes up a pill, and then theres filler.....the filler for fish antibiotics WILL be different from that of human antibiotics.....and a dog antibiotic.....and they dont have to test if those 'fillers' are harmful to humans because they're not for human consumption.....only to fish or dogs..... that make more sense or does it still sound stupid?

my bad buddy...i didn't explain it the way she explained it too me....i really don't know how to describe what she described...ok, take an M & M....the peanut ones not the krappy dark chocolate ones....they have peanut in them...agreed? and they're covered in chocolate? agreed? now say the peanut is the thing that makes you better, the antibiotic....well we can eat peanut M & M 's all day long, it will do us no harm....however, make a dog do the same and it will die....not because of the peanut (antibiotic) but the chocolate....well antibiotics are a very small amount of what makes up a pill, and then theres filler.....the filler for fish antibiotics WILL be different from that of human antibiotics.....and a dog antibiotic.....and they dont have to test if those 'fillers' are harmful to humans because they're not for human consumption.....only to fish or dogs..... that make more sense or does it still sound stupid?

i understand what you are trying to say, but i'm saying that the medication is pure, and that any fillers that need to be placed in it has to comply with a certain standards. no filler placed in any medication can be harmful to the majority of the population. if the med is called by it's name, and it has the same markings on it, it has to be so close to original that in most cases it will not harm anyone.

yes, generic meds sometimes have fills that will cause reactions that the original medication will not. my mother can not take generic metformin.

this is a risk with any medication NOT just with this. the meds the vets have given me for my dogs come from "people" pharmacies, they are identical to the ones i get when i need them (or when i give them at work)

i also just heard back from the pharmacy that makes the "fish" antibiotics they are USP grade, which as stated above are highest grade.

when taking these antibiotics, there are two main risks you are taking
1) you are taking the wrong medication!
2) you have an allergy to this medication!

there is no more risk taking these then taking any other medication when it comes to fillers. the fillers in this is no more or less dangerous then any other medication on the market.

Article that I just found and started to read. This is an unverified article for me, so read with caution.
Guide to Veterinary Drugs for Human Consumption, Post-SHTF

http://www.truthistreason.net/guide-to-veterinary-drugs-for-human-consumption-post-shtf

http://www.truthistreason.net/guide-to-veterinary-drugs-for-human-consumption-post-shtf