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(@anonymous)
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First of all, thank you farmgal and oldschool for the warm welcome. You have restored my faith in this board.
All these posts are amazing and it has got me to think about situations like mine:
*retired
*existing medical conditions required medications
*older than most of you Preppers
*alone
*not as strong anymore
*basic retirement income a.k.a. poor
I still am preparing even though I realize that I know that in a severe situation, I probably won't last long. I can't stock up on medications as they expire and I can't afford to have more than a 3 months supply. I can have a little garden, but shovelling is difficult. I can look after myself, but not any animals. I can still stock up on canned goods or home preserved goods. I have lots of firewood. The days are over for major projects that could protect me.
But you know what, it still doesn't defeat me. There's no sense stressing over it and making my health worse, right? I won't roll over and play dead until I take my last breath.
I'm sure that there are others out there like myself, maybe in YOUR neighbourhood.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Hey there and welcome;
why not actively look for a group of people to partner with? Unless you are older than dirt everyone can contribute and help out. There are so many jobs to do in a survival/permaculture/prepper/farm/back to the land retreat, than anyone who can move about should be more than welcome.

I saw a site by a Canadian Vet, he is wheelchair bound as he lost both legs. He is out shooting with his son, in his shop working, and basically has a great life, although different than he should be o course. There are many people including 90yr olds still helping with firewood, finishing houses and homes, workshops, cooking, doing laundry, anything to help out really. So if you need to grab a wheel chair to help you out when your tired, I could use one once in a while too to be honest. Working on projects that are at desk level or table level, could be assisted with the use of the big wheels to move about easier, then pop up and stretch and do something else.

My thinking is its all good. Would help if you at least put the province in your profile. By the way there are a lot of people here who are alone and some of them are in a so called relationship as well!

If you have your own place, even a very large city lot;
Look to permaculture/aquaculture for some info on different ways of growing and raising foods. Using raised beds will allow you to not have to get onto your knees, I know that is always a bonus for me, read Infantry and motorcycle knees here!

My thoughts anyways.
cheers WildE



   
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(@anonymous)
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in traditional societies and those the City Dwellers consider Primitive societies, elders are respected, looked after and in turn look after the younger people as well. The are valuable and contribute a lot to the well being of the group/tribe/clan, whatever you call it.



   
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oldschool
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Hello,
It's nice to see you posting. There are in most cities a group of volunteers to help you out with the heavy stuff. Some of the local high school students are get at helping as well. I am alergic to spider bits so a few actual local gang members used to come over to cut my spices for me. I would not recommend that for everyone but the kids seemed to get as much out of helping as I got from their help. If you send me a private message with your city, I will see if I can get you some help with your garden.



   
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(@anitapreciouspearl)
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HI NotSoYoungAnymore - welcome! If you live near me I'd be happy to help out too and I know a WHOLE youth group that could be a great help 🙂 (My husband and I are youth pastors)


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susannah755
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"Vulnerable" is not a term I like to use because I it indicates someone who is considered a "soft" target. I'm over 50, female, single with a daughter (who thinks I'm "nuts") 5'4" with a lean build so I guess I kinda fit into that category however I don't consider myself as "vulnerable" cos I won't go down without a fight. It doesn't matter where you live because we are all going to be in the same boat when SHTF. WildE, Oldschool and Anita have all given excellent advice (and they know heaps), and as you read through the threads on this forum you will find that there are ways to get around any "problems" that you think you have. Often when I start to feel that it's getting to be too hard/stressful/unaffordable (also low income as student/carer for elderly mother/part time employee) I'll come onto this forum and ask questions (some of them are really dumb..but no-one has made me feel stupid for asking). I now have alternative ways to defend myself that suit my size, I've learned about weapons, I've learned other ways to garden, and the list goes on.... there are manuals/links posted in different threads for all sorts of stuff to help you in your prepping (alternative heating, dehydrating food, natural health remedies, etc) but another very important thing I get from this forum (apart from information) is the ability to be able to "talk" to other preppers so I don't feel so alone. I get scared sometimes too but I have two other people (mum and daughter) plus 8 animals depending on me to "step up to the plate". Hang in there and if you're able to get some help..please take it! People generally don't offer to help if they don't want to. [getting off soapbox now]


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(@anonymous)
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Notsoyounganymore... where are you located? General area? We may be able to form a new "Over The Hill Gang".....



   
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(@farmgal)
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I still am preparing even though I realize that I know that in a severe situation, I probably won't last long. I can't stock up on medications as they expire and I can't afford to have more than a 3 months supply. I can have a little garden, but shovelling is difficult. I can look after myself, but not any animals. I can still stock up on canned goods or home preserved goods. I have lots of firewood. The days are over for major projects that could protect me.
But you know what, it still doesn't defeat me. There's no sense stressing over it and making my health worse, right? I won't roll over and play dead until I take my last breath.

Welcome to the list, and I am so glad you decided to stick around and learn about the folks on the board, we have some truly excellent folks out there, I do understand where you are coming from to a point, it can be harder to do things when you are getting older but I second the other folks, little tiny things can make a huge difference, even if its just having a few jugs of water, an extra thick blanket, sound like you can and will stock a good pantry. As for the garden, do consider seeing if you can get a little help for at least one raised bed, and if you are going small, consider the square foot gardening method for the most bang for your buck in regards to space, and seed costs etc, but only if you have a good water source, ideally free rain water, as that is the downside of planting that tightly and in a raised bed, you need lots and lots of water.

Sound like you still can heat from with firewood, that takes you a step ahead of many, many folks right there, I do agree that trying not to stress is a good thing, for me at least, I find writing out lists of things I can do and then seeing them being checked off is a huge thing.. little things add up so fast if you do them all the time.

While we all worry about the "if", and I know that it scare's the heck out of me personally as I don't see it being a good time to be had in any way shape or form, no matter how hard one works at it, the odds are good that most of the time, our preps will come in more handy for personal SHTF, which could be short terms power loss, or needing to eat out your house for a month so that you have a little extra $ for something else, and in those ways, you have already said a few things that you can use to help yourself along, even just being able to cut your power use by using wood heat is big one if you needed to..

Lastly, I agree with the others, there are many of us that have a place of honor in our hearts for our elders, and all the knowledge they have an can share, don't be afriad to reach out and see if you can find folks in your local area that would like to give a helping hand.


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