Some of you have probably already watched this. I found it really well put together considering most people dont know the numbers. As an american for gun rights, I knew of the Chicago statistics and how most crime is unregistered hang-guns. This should go to show that the push for rifle and overall gun restrictions is a crock and really meant to take power from the people. What is everyone else's theory on the all the of the political pushes for gun restrictions even though gun crime is primarily in gun restricted areas?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_-N9_tnWBo
Another great video is this one about the printable guns! Crazy advancement of firearms.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yeh6K7vPCOU&NR=1
Go on YouTube and see the vid about how gun crime and other violent crime including home invasions went up in Australia after a partial gun ban. (Better yet, read Glenn Beck's "Control").
“The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world that it leaves to its children.”
― Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Well if they think they are doing it for the protection of the general public they are delusional. The public demands some restrictions as to who can have access to firearms I get that and it is needed but a general ban is absurd and any easy route for lazy politicians.
Criminals don't give a crap what laws are passed - ANY laws, be they gun control, laws against murder, rape, drugs, or whatever. Passing a law will not even slow down the problem, let alone stop it. The crims don't respect any of the laws we presently have. Any politician who thinks they are going to respect any new law is delusional. Or has an alternate agenda.
These criminals don't respect the law, until such time as they need to use the law to get out of the trouble they are in with the Law.
All I hear these maggots whining about is their 'rights'. Never once have I heard any of them even mention 'duty' or 'responsibility'.
Time to bring back chain gangs and hard labour. The only things these parasites respect is force. And if the bleeding hearts want to whine about it, add them to the chain!
It isn't about criminals respecting the law nor is it about politicians being delusional. It IS ABOUT politicians playing upon the fear of the general population and using that to reinforce the illusion that the government can and will keep them safe. The sheep give up their independance, their rights, their freedom and their will in return for the illusion of security. Safety and security is like sex... it only TRULY works if you take responsibility for it yourself.
JAB
Unfortunately, crime rates are driven by multiple factors, which explains why there is no clear correlation between gun control and crime worldwide. Unfortunately, given the same argument, it is very likely crime rates will go up given combinations of major crises, with or without gun control.
Unfortunately, crime rates are driven by multiple factors, which explains why there is no clear correlation between gun control and crime worldwide. Unfortunately, given the same argument, it is very likely crime rates will go up given combinations of major crises, with or without gun control.
That's interesting Ralfy. Where do you predict that crime rates will go up? Which crisis in particular are you thinking of? Overall crime rates here in Canada have been going down consistently for some time now. You mention "worldwide rates" though, so what are you thinking?
Needs must when the devil drives.
That's interesting Ralfy. Where do you predict that crime rates will go up? Which crisis in particular are you thinking of? Overall crime rates here in Canada have been going down consistently for some time now. You mention "worldwide rates" though, so what are you thinking?
The chart presented here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/opinion/blow-on-guns-america-stands-out.html
comes from various sources, including the OECD.
Correlation between gun control and crime rate is not clear. Some countries have high income and and higher number of guns but also higher crime rates, and others the opposite.
That's interesting Ralfy. Where do you predict that crime rates will go up? Which crisis in particular are you thinking of? Overall crime rates here in Canada have been going down consistently for some time now. You mention "worldwide rates" though, so what are you thinking?
The chart presented here:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/20/opinion/blow-on-guns-america-stands-out.html
comes from various sources, including the OECD.
Correlation between gun control and crime rate is not clear. Some countries have high income and and higher number of guns but also higher crime rates, and others the opposite.
Ralfy,
I agree that one cannot draw a clear line of causality between gun ownership and violent crime. I believe that a countries socio-economic character tells us much more and yet it is not the whole picture either. What I don't read from the link that you have provided is how you come to the conclusion that, "...it is very likely crime rates will go up given combinations of major crises, with or without gun control." The data that I have reviewed would suggest that violent crime in the developed world is steadily declining. Of course, the media and popular culture would have us believe otherwise.
Antsy
Needs must when the devil drives.
Ralfy,
I agree that one cannot draw a clear line of causality between gun ownership and violent crime. I believe that a countries socio-economic character tells us much more and yet it is not the whole picture either. What I don't read from the link that you have provided is how you come to the conclusion that, "...it is very likely crime rates will go up given combinations of major crises, with or without gun control." The data that I have reviewed would suggest that violent crime in the developed world is steadily declining. Of course, the media and popular culture would have us believe otherwise.
Antsy
A combination of peak oil, global financial crisis, and the long-term effects of environmental damage and global warming will lead to socio-economic problems that will increase not only crime rates but social unrest in general. We are already seeing the effects of that through high food and oil prices, leading to unemployment, austerity measures, etc.
Although developed countries might be able to minimize the effects of these predicaments through increased credit creation, the latter won't last, and in terms of the financial crisis, will only make things worse.