Sad but very true nighthawk. I think many people would hesitate the first time. Unfortunately for them there would not be a second time.

Having one gun or a hundred is all really just a mind set.Buy till you feel good. What really matters is the ability and willingness to use them. Shooting a rabbitt or shooting another person takes alot of strenght, even if that person is a threat.If you hesitate on a rabbitt you go hungry, hesitate on a person and your dead. Most people will be dead! It goes against what most believe in and the split second it takes you to make that choice,you could be eating lead. On A sunnny note check out the Rossi Ranch hand. They are easy to handle,carry and use. Very simple and reliable.Big enough to get supper and mean enough to scare away most people.

I don't have a restricted license...only my PAL.

I have been making a careful study of shotguns and think I'm leaning toward a Moss. 500 with two barrels. It will serve both as protection and as a small game hunting gun. I'm told it comes in around $350...and there's a large order coming into Milarm in Edmonton any day now.

For those of you who use a 500...any thoughts?

Some of the people I've been talking with say that the 500 will keep shooting while the 870 will lock up if it gets too dirty. Is this true?

Thanks in advance...

I've fired over 200 rounds out of my 870 and never had any problem. I was shooting 20 rounds at a time, sheet shooting, so tell me, would not 20 rounds make it dirty. Or, are we talking dropping into dirty water, type dirt. Unless your firing a combat style weapon, I wouldn’t advise any one to shoot after emersion, anyone else feel this way. ""At the end of the day, clean your weapon, a dirty weapon is a dangerous weapon.""

I have been making a careful study of shotguns and think I'm leaning toward a Moss. 500 with two barrels. It will serve both as protection and as a small game hunting gun. I'm told it comes in around $350...and there's a large order coming into Milarm in Edmonton any day now.

For those of you who use a 500...any thoughts?

Some of the people I've been talking with say that the 500 will keep shooting while the 870 will lock up if it gets too dirty. Is this true?

Thanks in advance...

If you are looking at the two-barrel combo for the Mossberg 500, consider getting the folding stock. That way you have a short barrel shottie to put in your back pack in bear country. Also, you have a long barrel, shoulder set bird gun.

Here is a quote from Mossberg, " We are particularly proud that our Mossberg® pump shotguns are the only shotguns purchased by the United States government that meet or exceed Mil-S-3443 specifications"

I personally run the extra heavy Mossberg 590/A1 Mil spec. Added a Sure Fire firegrip tactical light and aluminum 6-shot side saddle to have misc ammo on selection.

The Remmi 870's are solid as well. Millions of users would not be using them from the bird blind to the battlefield if they were a problem. Coke or Pepsi.

Ok going to look at a Mossberg 500 20 G next Friday...perhaps the recoil is better than the 12 g...thank you all for your advise and information!

One point I'd like to make on shot reload/load on the shot gun. I have found that, leaving an open space in the load tube beneficial. What I'm saying is, don’t go walking around with a round up the spout and the load tube full. If you come across a situation where you need a different round, your screwed until you’ve ejected twice. Say you've got a full load of bird shot, and a bear or other nasty comes out after you. If you have that empty space you can load the 00 or a sabot round, then eject or fire the round up the chamber, and your next round will be your knock down load. If you can, on a range (or where ever safe) practice this action.
Remember, load it before you cock it. Also, a quick grab, belt magazine, is good for this type of action. Have a Good and Safe hunt.

Good suggestion Ranger. Going to work on that tomorrow at the range.

Just saw the YOUTUBE review on the Taurus Judge using different rounds. 410,45 long and the 454 Casul flat nose lead slug. Impressive and scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnwO0o2ClQ&feature=related . 😯 😎 😈

By the way, Just saw the review on the Mos 500. it will be my next gun to buy, along with the reloader. Now for the lottery...

I bought my wife the Mossberg 500c 20 gauge, standard shoulder stock, side saddle and a Master-Key muzzle.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&client=safari&tbo=d&biw=1024&bih=644&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=mossberg+500+master+key&oq=mossberg+500+master+key&gs_l=img.3...136080.137923.0.138801.9.8.0.0.0.1.231.830.0j2j2.4.0...0.0...1ac.fQKrc4Rm9Uo#biv=i|66;d|9dwQP3-9kOILvM :

I have breached a door bolt and it works fantastic!

Just saw the YOUTUBE review on the Taurus Judge using different rounds. 410,45 long and the 454 Casul flat nose lead slug. Impressive and scary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgnwO0o2ClQ&feature=related . 😯 😎 😈

The Judge is fun. FPS Russia tested it for accuracy. Just search on YouTube.

A truly flexible revolver is the Smith & Wesson 460.
It shoots any of the four types of ammo without changing cylinders: 460 Magnum, 454 Casull, 45 Long Colt, 44 Magnum

Its a big, scarry looking revolver but easy to shoot and accurate.

How might somebody do this:

And more importantly, could it be done to something like this: http://www.marstar.ca/dynamic/product.jsp?productid=81629

How might somebody do this:

I have seen a prototype under-slung using a Mossberg 500 Roadblocker. You just need a back to back Picatinny rail mount and a good quad rail on your AR15.