People start to overreact when they experience paranoia over something which they feel they no longer have control. When most get nervous, they tend to talk too much and they usually speak what's on their mind, these paranoid thoughts, thus feeding another's paranoia. Police are trained to "take control" of a situation and often just their presence can allow for control to come back into the situation. MP's we are trained more aggressively due to having to control a more aggressive environment ..ie: soldiers who are usually drunk! The flaw is that when you fight one, his "I got your back" buddy steps in and so on...and so on.

What we do is first separate the conflicting individuals. If we cannot gain control of the situation, we have a few options..

1. We look for who is the leader of the dispute. He is the one we have to control to gain full control over the situation.

2. We try to befriend him by drawing on his logical side and asking him to help us control this situation

3. If he doesn't cooperate fully, we intimidate him with a quiet threat or two

4. If he responds aggressively in any way to us, we now have provocation, and we now drop him hard and fast in front of his buddies(no wrestling). We just made an example of him and gained authority over others by doing battle. We do it fast and use strategic blows to end it quickly. Then we look at his cohorts and smile! This is a tactic too, as it says"your next" to all others if you try us.

5. Most soldiers can likely verify that is what they often witness when MP's arrive. Many just thought they were gung-ho MP's. If we arrest a really tough soldier, we often try to recruit him into the MP's with a leaner sentence so we become stronger yet 😆

This is why most civilian police forces didn't want to hire ex-MP's....were supposed to be too aggressive! I stated all this because I want you to see that there are ways in which to gain control of a situation, even if it has gone bad. It requires an understanding of human nature and knowing many will simply follow if someone were to take the lead. Even if you don't want the job, is it not better than the anarchy that you see occur on TV?

Well said Knuckle,

I would sooner listen to experience, than a fictional novel or TV show.

People start to overreact when they experience paranoia over something which they feel they no longer have control. When most get nervous, they tend to talk too much and they usually speak what's on their mind, these paranoid thoughts, thus feeding another's paranoia. Police are trained to "take control" of a situation and often just their presence can allow for control to come back into the situation. MP's we are trained more aggressively due to having to control a more aggressive environment ..ie: soldiers who are usually drunk! The flaw is that when you fight one, his "I got your back" buddy steps in and so on...and so on.

What we do is first separate the conflicting individuals. If we cannot gain control of the situation, we have a few options..

1. We look for who is the leader of the dispute. He is the one we have to control to gain full control over the situation.

2. We try to befriend him by drawing on his logical side and asking him to help us control this situation

3. If he doesn't cooperate fully, we intimidate him with a quiet threat or two

4. If he responds aggressively in any way to us, we now have provocation, and we now drop him hard and fast in front of his buddies(no wrestling). We just made an example of him and gained authority over others by doing battle. We do it fast and use strategic blows to end it quickly. Then we look at his cohorts and smile! This is a tactic too, as it says"your next" to all others if you try us.

5. Most soldiers can likely verify that is what they often witness when MP's arrive. Many just thought they were gung-ho MP's. If we arrest a really tough soldier, we often try to recruit him into the MP's with a leaner sentence so we become stronger yet 😆

This is why most civilian police forces didn't want to hire ex-MP's....were supposed to be too aggressive! I stated all this because I want you to see that there are ways in which to gain control of a situation, even if it has gone bad. It requires an understanding of human nature and knowing many will simply follow if someone were to take the lead. Even if you don't want the job, is it not better than the anarchy that you see occur on TV?

Eh thanks very much for this valuable piece of information. Very informative, this is why I joined this forum.

I will now never look at the red-beret clad guys, sitting in their cars, frowning at people doing 51 in the 50 zone on base the same way ever again 😉

More seriously, nice info knuckle! Good approach to many conflict situation, that may come in handy.

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I sure don't want MY last though being "Wow, I didn't see THAT coming".

Preppersaurus

The answer is that we can't prepare for every possibility because there are just too many variables. You can't let fear of the unknown destroy your character or you become a shell of the person you once were due to paranoia winning over. You must draw a line mentally saying that you have done enough and trust that you covered the major bases. Instead of dedicating so much of your time to fear based aspects, why not spend more researching and honing your skills to better understand human nature. I read various books on body language and marvel at how I have a better understanding of people now that I incorporated this into my daily senses. Here is an example to show what I mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW9ztSUGY_Q

If you learn such techniques, you can sharpen skillsets others don't even have!

My current worst nightmare are the green horn hunters that took the course, got their hunting license and then head out into the bush not knowing where they are and shooting at anything that moves!!! Every year I'm chasing away bad hunters that are in the crown land beside my land and don't realize that there are people that live close to it and they are shooting into my back yard!

I just can't begin to imagine if TSHTF what would be out into the woods. One green horn shooting another or their family member. It is frigging scary now but later...... 😯

Not to mention that they will also burn the forest down with campfires because they should not really be allowed to play with matches.

I wonder how quickly the forests would be emptied of all wildlife in heavily populated areas. Without constant census taken by the MNR, folks would have overhunted even my area long ago. A likely miscount on bull moose last year will have dire restrictions this year on the allotted bull tags issued to correct this error. If that didn't occur, we too would have little to offer as a tourist region.

In the fall, I am amazed at the number of moose hides that ones sees at our local dump. Hunters want the meat, not the hides. Most locals who don't want the hides, give them to local natives who do. The trappers up here curse that they now have to skin the squirrels that get caught in their traps and receive 50 cents for their efforts. Folks up here complain that the natives stop much of the progress that could occur with mining and logging if they would stay out of it.(how little we know of greed....) Yet few consider that only the rich have benefited from present mines. Doctors call this area the cancer belt of Canada due to higher % statistics. This is from the use of mercury(now banned), cyanide and arsenic used in mining gold and many other chemicals used in the production of paper. Newer technologies have uncovered new mineral veins and Canada's losing frontier lands at higher rates due to this expansion.

With the amount of people planning to sit on their guns protecting their preps and gardens intown, I think it's safe to say that the only over hunting most will see is the hunting that is done by all the cannibals, and rambos. Haha. Joking.

My point for pretty much all of this thread is that folks have to wake up to see what is truly the cause and effect. Many who watch TV as a daily routine are therefore affected by the content they watch. Seems many ex- military personnel are finally realizing they were manipulated (brainwashed) in the past and are therefore likely less susceptible to be easily influenced by modern media tactics due to their built in paranoia of such methods. Other people are less influenced just due to their nature or other past experiences. But many who come to this forum know that many current events have some common factors and all of us are trying to understand the end game.

Many have to face the facts that the news people who convinced you that we were going into Iraq and Libya for humanitarian reasons are the same folks telling you this same excuse for the Ukraine. Is it just coincidence that:

1/ the US has private forces such as Blackwater to use in it's defense for home or abroad
2/ laws being put into place which remove many of our basic rights, both in Canada and the US (but only to locate and detain terrorists....)
3/ the government stockpiling of rations and ammo, and fuel resources (proven by they argued expense during a senate debate)
4/ mass firing of key high ranking military leaders (with no obvious reasons)
5/ training of civilian forces to accept leadership from military authority (in case of terrorist act of course)
6/ monitoring of all communications in North America (but only for terrorist threats...)
7/ accumulating data to target any individual through info collected from Facebook, emails, phone calls, web browsing, or even affiliation thru friends

The internet has replaced a need for public libraries and no one has kept their Encyclopedia sets anymore. If they ever shut off the tap to the internet, the people will have lost public knowledge to kick us back centuries...we couldn't exist well as we forgot how to provide our own basic needs. We see these tactics(no access to power or even water) used to control those people in Iraq and shrug off the suggestion that those same tactics could be used to control us in the near future. Even the RCMP are enforcing vague laws and restrictions and noting how much protest they receive for these actions... but these a just little things....right?

"In Soviet Union, TV watches you!"

Stupid old jokes like that are ironic to me now. Most of the anti-freedom tactics we used to point fingers at the Soviets for are now being employed in the US. All for keeping us safe.

I dunno. I'm a realist. The surveillance may very well be necessary for our survival. And alot of people complaining about cameras and email interception don't realize that it was already happening.

I can look out the window and see the neighbors in their hot tub. And being an IT guy, I harbor no illusions that some guy at Google isn't looking through your vacation pictures. It's the world we live in.

The simplest attack that could be perpetrated upon us is have our basic resources withdrawn (ie:cut the power). Soon our water would stop flowing and all communications would cease. If this were to occur in the winter, many would die in a short period. An EMP pulse could easily put us into such a state. Our government would claim others committed the act so who would we retaliate against? We would be too busy to do much but fight to see the next day.

This is the tactic that was used on Iraq. Instead of winter, lack of water and sewer became priority followed by food shortages. Yet we watched on the news as if these people should have been grateful for American intervention. We mourned for 3,500 soldiers lost yet ignored that they lost over 500,000 children.

If war doesn't come in Europe, we will likely have to face economic collapse in America which will affect the whole world to some degree. The only ones who will win in either scenario are the elite. Their pockets will bulge and they are prepared for any eventuality while the rest of us will fight over their crumbs they drop. Much of what I listed above is plan B to them if they can't get us to fight a war in their Plan A. Setting off a nuke high overhead in their own back yard could easily cause this EMP and blaming it on the enemy would provoke Plan A once we recovered from Plan B. We are but chess pieces on their chess board. Many can see were being played , yet we cannot see a way to quit the game!

Knuckle,

This seems to have departed a little bit from the OP, but I'll play along for a moment. The biggest problem I see with any such theory is that somebody, at some point, always talk. Doesn't matter if you are the General with the hyper-dooper-top secret clearance, someone with enough ethos speaks up. This is why I have a hard time believing that even the best well placed elite person couldn't hide a false flag event hoping to be able to play it forever.

In all cases, just in case, be ready!