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(@sylvie2674)
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Has anyone else seen the Venezuela food crisis.

I was watching a documentary today on how they have one of the biggest global oil reserves. However their money is over inflated and how the city of Caracas no longer has food coming in to feed it's people. About a year ago the government had already implemented a system that people had to scan their finger prints when they went shopping and could only buy in small quantities.
There is more to this story, starting with the Chavez social government. Of course he passed away and there is a new government in charge.

I am not trying for to start a fear thread, I am just curious on everyone's insight on this situation.

Do you think this could happen here? Do you see the similarities?

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(@saltandprepper)
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Just wait until the same happens here thanks to the TurdDOH government....
Yay


   
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(@denob)
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Has anyone else seen the Venezuela food crisis.

I was watching a documentary today on how they have one of the biggest global oil reserves. However their money is over inflated and how the city of Caracas no longer has food coming in to feed it's people. About a year ago the government had already implemented a system that people had to scan their finger prints when they went shopping and could only buy in small quantities.
There is more to this story, starting with the Chavez social government. Of course he passed away and there is a new government in charge.

I am not trying for to start a fear thread, I am just curious on everyone's insight on this situation.

Do you think this could happen here? Do you see the similarities?

Got a link to that?


   
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(@farmgal)
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yes, I have been following it and have been for awhile now, I find t very interesting that they are actively seeking the city population to start growing their own food, removed the chicken, small livestock laws but with no soil, no seeds, no money or training, its been interesting t read how folks are working it on that end, they are effectively on rations

as for Canada, well.. at this point the short answer is no and for a large number of reasons as I see it at this time

the slightly longer answer is all the laws needed are still on the books from the world wars time, they would just need to be kicked into place.

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(@helicopilot)
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I've been keeping an eye on this too. Not out of fear of seeing this happening soon in our neighborhood, but rather to observe how population behave when the times get rough.

Trying not to be political here, but when people want more government in their life, they have to be prepared for what may come with it!


   
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(@farmgal)
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http://proof.utoronto.ca/resources/proof-annual-reports/annual-report-2014/

related to the topic

http://livingmydreamlifeonthefarm.wordpress.com/


   
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(@sylvie2674)
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Thank you farmgal

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I prep for the short and long term. Everyday I strive to learn something new.
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I have friends in Argentina and Venezuela and this has been a "slow burn" for some time. Hindsight being 20/20...its failed socialism. Not my words but theirs. Its not to the point of people starving in the streets...but its the aftermath of the initial "high" when oil companies were booted out and industries nationalized, credit ratings went to pot as the country wouldnt honour debts, etc.

It will get better....but it will take some time to rebuild a private sector, return to a more balanced economy and regain international trust in actually doing business there. Really unfortunate circumstances....

https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738


   
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(@thecrownsown)
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http://proof.utoronto.ca/resources/proof-annual-reports/annual-report-2014/

related to the topic

This is related but probably not in the way we would think about it.

First of all, two of the contributors Valeria Tarasuk and Naomi Dachner are known socialists with left of center leanings. Heavy is the staggering numbers on food insecurity...what needs to be noted is that part of the report is based on peoples responses "how they feel" not actual conditions. Also left out is the issue of food distribution..and availability...not just food consumption. Anyone in Northern Ontario let alone the arctic knows that finding some of the basics like celery can be a chore whether the money is available or not...its simple logistics. Anyone outside of major city centers can face this. And finally, they are very shy on the larger picture as to where money in households is actually allocated...so is it the fact that money is spent elsewhere and not on food...or simply not enough money overall in a household. The report does allude to the inevitable socialist repose though: These households cant provide for themselves...the government must do so for them. And how does a government provide for a segment of society? By taking from another segment.

How is it related to Argentina and Venezuela? We've seen the initial good intentions and supposed benefits of socialism where everyone gets a steak dinner and fancy car...and then the aftermath as the economy goes into a free fall from the "readjustments" made by meddling and appropriation by the state.

We've seen this play out time and again...

https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738


   
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(@sylvie2674)
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I will get the links on tonight when I get home.

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Here are two links about Venezuela Denob.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/18/news/economy/venezuela-economy-meltdown/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/coup-threatened-in-venezuela-amidst-deepening-economic-crisis/5507973

If you need more proof the info is all over the place.

Also I was just comparing the situation between there and Alberta. However this could easily happen all over Canada.

In the meantime we prep, we keep learning and we will be ready when SHTF.

I prep for my daughters, for they are our future.
I prep for the short and long term. Everyday I strive to learn something new.
I prep for community. For in the long run each of us need one another.


   
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A friend of mine from the US visited her friends down there with her suitcase loaded with supplies for them last fall. Her flight stopped in the Caribbean and she was advised that she should unload her suitcase and take boxes of condoms which she did not do, and sure enough they were selling on the black market for $700 a box. The family she stayed with were in a better area and still subject to some black outs and intermitant water supply . Her hostess had been a dentist but the government is controling everything and she was informed she was not needed and could no longer practice, so she started up a smoothie bar. They try to take advantage of every opportunity when something is made available and hoard as much as possible , things like toilet paper because supply is so inconsistant.
On a small scale we have some parallels here, for instance in BC we have not been able to bring hazelnut trees in from anywhere in Canada nor the USA for years due to government restrictions . Now a blight has made its way up from Oregon and decimated the hazelnut groves which have limited genetic diversity so nothing found to be resistant , most being ordered to be destroyed I believe. So the hazelnut production is wiped out . And heritage genetics developed in BC years ago like the Gellatly hazelnut stock are only to be found in other provinces and perhaps the US but nothing available here. I suppose few people care but I see it as an example how the government can create a faltering system .


   
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(@denob)
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Here are two links about Venezuela Denob.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/18/news/economy/venezuela-economy-meltdown/

http://www.globalresearch.ca/coup-threatened-in-venezuela-amidst-deepening-economic-crisis/5507973

If you need more proof the info is all over the place.

Also I was just comparing the situation between there and Alberta. However this could easily happen all over Canada.

In the meantime we prep, we keep learning and we will be ready when SHTF.

Not looking for proof...the Venezuela issue is indeed well documented. I was simply curious to see the documentaries you had referenced, purely for information gathering and to be better able to take part in the conversation.
Thanks for the links, I'll be sure to check them out.


   
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(@sylvie2674)
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No problem Denob. I completely understand, I did say I would put up links so I did.
I also watched some on YouTube, but I couldn't get the links up with my ipad πŸ˜€ .
Quite honestly this was the first time I heard about Venezuela.
I decided 7 years ago to cut the cable, it was one of the best decision I made.
So what is your opinion on this Denob?

I prep for my daughters, for they are our future.
I prep for the short and long term. Everyday I strive to learn something new.
I prep for community. For in the long run each of us need one another.


   
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(@denob)
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I took just a quick peek, but will have to get back to it probably Monday. Right now I'm chin deep with a laptop resoration and tomorrow will be another sap boiling day.
However, on a similar topic, have a look at how Cuba dealt with it's oil crisis...
http://www.canadianpreppersnetwork.com/2014/10/movie-monday-power-of-community-how.html
You may find this one interesting.


   
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