What I don't see mentioned is that often police forces have work arounds that they use to get the job done as the laws stand now( or at least did back in my day as an MP in the 70's). If say, a warrant was required on a Saturday night, they were hard to get as judges were at home and in bed. Civilian police would ask the Military Police to "open" a certain place as MP's required no warrants. We did this a couple times only that I can remember and each was pre-approved by our superiors before doing so. Our military was given this right in case of martial law. The point is that MP's didn't abuse it so as far as I know, they still have it today.
Now the military are responsible for national defense, so I always fail to see why terrorism doesn't fall under their jurisdiction instead. And yes, I'd still be nervous with giving a wide spectrum of power to them too. Yet, the military wouldn't share you data so easily with other government branches so easily as soldiers fear reprisal from above far more than civi's do. Your 1st article posted stated that eventually some factors of your personal data would be shared with the private sector. I agree with that conclusion too as this seems to be the way with "cooperation" these days. It's not their data, so they don't seem to care so much. At least if the military held the data, it would stand a much better chance at only getting used for it's intended goal. And punishment for sharing such info with others would then extend to being considered an act of treason by the guilty party...harsh but therefore much safer.
So far the RCMP have a pretty crappy track record with their latest antics in High River. I cringe at the thought of what they were trying to accomplish there. The fact that the military didn't cooperate with them shows that they were not privy to whatever their end goal was. Since the RCMP don't appear to wish to justify their actions, I can't see why Canadians should entrust them with even more powers now.
A little history on CSIS. How they came to be. Their mandate and why they don't have enforcement powers. There are very valid reasons why it is set up this way.
http://www.parl.gc.ca/Content/LOP/ResearchPublications/8427-e.htm
Ch ch changes
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/csis-then-and-now/article22743802/
Nothing sinister here. Granted this is only an op/ed piece.
Remember how I said we cherry pick what supports our arguments?
Prime Minister Stephen Harper rejected calls for more political oversight of broad new spy and police powers, saying his Conservative government has “strengthened” oversight by turning to Canada’s judges.
Other senior Conservative ministers echoed the prime minister’s new line of defence, cited the evolving “mutating” threat, and broad public support for the bill reported by pollster Angus Reid.
They don't mention that in that same poll, Most Canadians (69%) want additional oversight to ensure law enforcement’s powers aren’t abused
Full article below.
I believe the part where they say that this bill will have a disastrous effect on human rights in Canada. Seems lobbyists have been trying long and hard to slide this bill thru. Someone is paying them to pursue this so much and the lack of willingness to rewrite it's shady areas should set warning bells off in all of us. Next the refusal to have some oversight to prevent abuse of this bill is another warning of intended misuse.
Even after the Conservative party has been replaced by another, the effects of this bill will be in place and the process to revoke will likely prove to be a hard one. The US works on instilling a constant fear factor to maintain justification of extreme measures and now this same tactic is being applied to Canadians. Giving up one's basic human rights just because of a single shooting again seems extreme, does it not? All on the premise that a jihadist is hiding behind every bush.
Folks everywhere should really think this out and then join in on the protests before they push this crap thru! If not, You may never get to protest again!
Part of the Harper legacy, like it or not is the implementation of "Omnibus" bills.
Massive, multifaceted pieces of legislation.
Omnibus bills should be unconstitutional.
https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738
http://www.therebel.media/why_our_stopc51_video_went_viral
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So this is definitely a pro Bill C51 link as it proclaims that all who attended at too stupid to know the contents of Bill C51.
I again didn't hear anything but personal conjecture while they damned these protesters. They didn't present any particulars in a manner to defend their own stand either. They just chastised those at the rally.... A common tactic these days!
This is what becomes the folly on todays approach to resolving an issue. Show me where our present system can't arrest and detain a suspect with our present laws. Show me how our system failed and the suspect slipped thru the cracks. Then I am willing to consider tightening the restrictions in that area, not across the whole board.
Our news media today sensationalizes some event that occurred across the world and states that this event could also happen here in Canada. They draw on our paranoia to allow legislation to change in ways that will eventually harm us or future generations, all because they used psychology in a way to achieve this goal.
And it is because of the majority of people refusing to see thru this facade, that the term "Sheeple" got it's roots! Most folks don't want to believe all the many ways that mankind can be manipulated. This is because their interests lie elsewhere, so they miss the telltale markers and presume that those leading know the best road to travel. In this approach, they prefer to simply accept the opinion of the masses, even if it is wrong. This common mindset therefore gives great power to those controlling the media and thus what is being presented in our daily news.
It seems earlier legislation prevented such majority control over our media, yet somehow these laws were changed and this present majority now dictates public opinion. Seems these same folks who monopolized the TV news then purchased the majority of newspaper companys next. The only media that isn't under their total influence these days is the internet. But laws are being implemented daily to finally gain control of who gets to speak aloud here too...
How come Bill C51 doesn't seem to care about this threat instead? We all know that our media is corrupt and yet the majority continue to repeat the messages it spouts anyways.
Now Marisa did say there were legitimate reasons to be concerned with C51. She must not have interviewed the right people. 🙂 I wondered where Ezra was going to end up after the sunset on Sun news.
It boils down to this. Read through the links I have posted. Then ask yourself this question, do you think that based on their past history and the stripping away of oversight that we can trust CSIS with new and expanded powers.
OK...time for some moderation here.
Let's see if we can get this topic away from political activism and back to prepping related.
So, here are some questions...
How does this bill, as it stands now, relate to prepping (situational awareness is not an acceptable answer)?
Will this restrict your prepping activities (quote specific text in the bill to support)?
Are you concerned that CSIS will be kicking in your door (so to speak) and what activity are you involved in that might cause this?