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What is going on and the toll it is taking on our kids

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Fenwolf
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I was listening to some of the conversations kids in our area were having as I took my 2 to school. A lot of the kids were talking about the problems we are having right now with food shortage and the storms going on. They had some very insightful things to say and more then a few said they did not feel as if their parents were ready for what was coming. My kids asked me if we were going to take care of these kids if an emergency happened. This made me start thinking about what would happen to kids we know if something did happen. No few of the parents in our area are alcoholics and drug users. Who will take care of these kids. I had no answers for my kids and said we would just have to see what happens. Looking for some guidance on what to say to my kids. Any help would be great.



   
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Kids talking about food shortages and what was coming? How old are they? And what were these kids saying was coming that there parents will ill prepared for?

Maybe have a talk with the teacher and see who where it's coming from first. Kids..for the most part...look inward and are not typically into larger social issues outside there own circle. (Typically...just a general rule) If someone is feeding them information like this maybe they had a guest speaker at the school and it will pass, or perhaps it was a discussion in class? Very odd though. I see your from Hamilton, I'm just north of you. Not facing any food shortages here, and weather is a bit colder than usual but no crazy adverse storms....


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Very interesting indeed, and I have to agree with crownsown, not typical kid conversation.
Perhaps they have gotten into Doomsday Preppers or something...I would be really interested in what sparked their interest, but good for it...
These kids, at least some of them will grow up to be preppers, which means that the movement is gaining ground and becoming more mainstream.



   
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These kids, at least some of them will grow up to be preppers, which means that the movement is gaining ground and becoming more mainstream.

If society in general accepted prepping as just part of standard every day life like changing your oil on your car or mowing your lawn...even on a smaller or minor scale like a week's preparation...we would be a more resilient species and so much more insulated from adversity.


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Fenwolf
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We prep as a family. But with the things the kids hear at school and tell us about after I am worried about the way people are dealing with the times. We have talked with our kids and they are aware of what we are doing and why. I am going to talk with them after school about stuff others said this morning. But my motto has always been hope for the best and prepare for the worst.



   
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We do not include our children in our prepping philosophy. Our children are 9 and 13. They camp, fish, and lots of other fun "prep" activities for their own sake. They don't need to feel they are preparing for anything. They do scout and cadet activites for fun, learning all the time how to be self sufficient. If the things they learn today become invaluable tomorrow, then that will be their good fortune. If they ask me about something I'm doing that is definitely prep related, their question(s) are fairly easily answered with as little detail as possible. My boy asked me once why I was packing away a large quantity of wheat. I simply said "well, you like bread don't you?" Then he asked why not just go buy some bread, and I said "sure, I'll keep buying bread, but if one day they run out for a day or two, you'll still have your bread".
Fenwolf, why are you worried about the way people are dealing with the times? Why transfer that worry to your children? On another angle, why put yourself at risk through your children? What if things really did get bad? I doubt you want all your children’s friends and their families showing up on your door.



   
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Fenwolf
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Fenwolf, why are you worried about the way people are dealing with the times? Why transfer that worry to your children? On another angle, why put yourself at risk through your children? What if things really did get bad? I doubt you want all your children’s friends and their families showing up on your door.

We are not worried about others and the choices they make, but how it effects our family. In our area we have some poor examples set by others and we do our best to show our kids what is a better way. And we do not make our kids worry or even involve them in all we are doing. But for a 10YO my son has a much stronger grasp on the world them most adults do. He just wants to help people. And there is no risk through our kids as they understand that anything to do with the family and house is not to be shared unless it is a safety issue. As for their friend's and their families I doubt any of them would ask anyone for help. In the case of some I know that the parents would just leave the kids behind. And that is a direct quote from one of my neighbours just on Sat. But we believe in answering questions from our kids with honesty. And they enjoy doing some of the prep work like canning. They get to make foods they love and eat it.



   
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 Syn
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"In the case of some I know that the parents would just leave the kids behind. And that is a direct quote from one of my neighbours just on Sat."

Good grief that is hard for me to comprehend.



   
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oldschool
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It sounds like you live in my old neighborhood. What I did was include the kids in the neighborhood when it came to things like gardening, cooking outdoors, woodworking & furniture refinishing, the stuff that I could do outdoors. I didn't tell them anything about prepping, just how to live cheap & healthy and not to be hungry. I would have gang members come over (their idea, not mine) to help. It was hard for me to not cry the first year they helped when I realized they had no idea how food grows. It was even more upsetting when one guy had no idea what a tomato was. For those kids that had space, I would give them seeds to plant.

Until I found this place, I had no clue I was a "prepper" it was just part of my life style. I was the person feeding the neighborhood when the black out happened. I was the one whose house they would sing Christmas carols at because they knew I would bake cookies. Most of the kids in my area went hungry on a regular bases. Their families were already dealing with their personal SHTF. Maybe you could explain to your kids that some people prepare in different ways, that they would be better off then the "rich" people that know nothing about hunger.

Better yet, why not be a speaker at the school explaining to kids what they can do. No matter what the age, they can do something. I would bring kids into the house to teach how to bake Christmas cookies or make chocolate. It gives them a skill, a sense of pride and gives them a better chance then their parents have.

Just my 2 cents...oops make that a nickel.

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Fenwolf
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"In the case of some I know that the parents would just leave the kids behind. And that is a direct quote from one of my neighbours just on Sat."

Good grief that is hard for me to comprehend.

When the mother said this to me I could not find anything to say. It just shocked the hell out of me.



   
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"In the case of some I know that the parents would just leave the kids behind. And that is a direct quote from one of my neighbours just on Sat."

Good grief that is hard for me to comprehend.

When the mother said this to me I could not find anything to say. It just shocked the hell out of me.

That wasn't a mother talking to you.. Thats just a animal that walks upright..



   
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 Syn
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I beg to differ, I know a whole lot of animals with stronger mothering instincts than that . I was concerned when I was pregnant , of how I would be as a mother. I was not getting any instinctive mothering feelngs . Then one day I sat for two hours watching a mother orangutan sit basically on the top of a telephone pole rockng her infant as it slept the entire time and I felt so emotional , I just got it what it was to be a mother watching her .



   
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sounds to me that comment was "hopefully" made in an area that they are use to child welfare coming In to pick up the pieces if they leave them behind, I would really like to believe in a true shtf, that no parent would willingly make that choice, but history has proven me wrong time an time again.


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(@singlecell)
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I'm not sure what you mean by taking a toll. It is up to the youth to fight its generations woes. Global warming, food supply, over-population and economic collapse. This is the way it's always been done, for decades. It's quite natural. You should be upset if they DIDN'T give a damn.

As for leaving their kids behind. I don't know what to tell you guys. A lot of you are hunters, you should all know nature isn't sunshine and rainbows. Animals kill their kids all the time. Female polar bears will totally eat her babies as soon as they are born if they feel they're not ready. That's called an abortion in nature. It does happen.



   
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Antsy
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When I was a kid, the "toll" was the cold war and an ever present low grade fear of nuclear war. My parent's and grand parents had to contend with two world wars and a series of smaller wars afterward. Before that, there were other issues which took a toll on that generations youth. The point being, today's issues are nothing special. Perhaps our children are more pampered than previous generations. Or I may be guilty of getting older and just have a bias against the kids today.


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