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(@denob)
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Well now, as you used the word "malicious", you must believe that this is an intentionally damaging project.
Let's then see some proof that the chemtrails are harmful to us and that the government is intentionally poisoning us.
Yes, we all know about the Manhattan project because there was proof...in the form of an atomic bomb being dropped.
This was not a conspiracy, it was a military weapon development project.
I for one know that the flu virus has been around long before the jet engine.
Through history, it mutates to overcome our bodies natural defences.
This mutation is a naturally process.
I would attribute our suceptability to this virus more to the germophobic nature of today's society.
When we rid our environment of as many germs as we can, our bodies do not develop antibodies to fight them and we are weakening our own immune systems by sterilizing whatever we come in contact with...scientifically proven.
http://www.thebody.com/content/art2499.html
Let's see the proof you have gathered.
If I sound a bit rough, it's because I really get frustrated at people who use this forum for anti government agendas.
As for the warning you were issued, it was in response to the way you inferred that we were unable to see YOUR truth and, as I mentioned, was on the borderline of being rude.



   
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(@anonymous)
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Well, I've been told. Gee, were the beef. I always enjoy people telling me what my agenda is "not"

I do believe that this is an intentionally damaging project. I also know only mother Earth makes clouds, not jets. I don't think the government is intentionally poisoning us, there to stupid or payed off for the most part. How long did it take to make the atomic bomb before it was dropped.? How long did it take me to find out about experimental weather modification programs and how long have they been going on. ?

You know I'm perfectly fine with any one not believing that experimental weather modification programs are on going and its effects on earth.
What does surprise me is the total lack of help to help me get to the truth. It actually saddens me quite a bit.

Isn't this the preppers network, or are we forgetting what( network )means. and preppers for that matter. ok so dec 21, 2012 pass , nothing went down , just like I have always said here. There only so many time you can talk about how many cans of bean you bought.

Are you a Can't -adian or a Can-adian or is that rude.

Lets see what we find here, shoot it down if you like, that's what free speech is all about.

http://aircrap.org/?s=flu%20chemtrail



   
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(@anonymous)
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If you are interested in this subject check out some of the patents in the field of geoengineering at:
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/links-to-geoengineering-patents/



   
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Contrails (chemtrails) from 1944...WW2
As well for this to happen you would need technicians to modify the planes and engines to accept the chemicals, others to manufacture, ship, store and administer the chemicals. Maintainance personel to keep it all functioning and every airplane technician and jet engine mechanic would have to ignore "modifications" to standard airframe builds inspected and mandated by the FAA. I'd love to know the incentive to keep every one of these people quiet IF something is being hidden.

JAB



   
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(@denob)
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Not every trail from a jet is a chemical conspiracy Beth...
Check this one out...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkB-rxTjaIw
By the way, I really don't trust anyone who sells that much crap on their website...
It's just fear mongering in order to sell books so she can make money.
Also, anyone so closely attached to Alex Jones should also just plain ol' be ignored!



   
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(@anonymous)
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Denob, I never said every jet in the sky is leaving a chemtrail. I see both, Jets passing buy pretty much at the same time, some leave long chemtrails that don't evaporate and other that do.

Sure you could say that about Alex Jones. I think its a little bit childish to say anyone so closely attached to Alex Jones should also just plain ol' be ignored!and I'm not even sure if chemtrail spraying effect our heath, as in weakling our immune systems and making us more pron to flu. I'm sure it can't be good though.



   
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(@denob)
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Denob, I never said every jet in the sky is leaving a chemtrail. I see both, Jets passing buy pretty much at the same time, some leave long chemtrails that don't evaporate and other that do.

Sure you could say that about Alex Jones. I think its a little bit childish to say anyone so closely attached to Alex Jones should also just plain ol' be ignored!and I'm not even sure if chemtrail spraying effect our heath, as in weakling our immune systems and making us more pron to flu. I'm sure it can't be good though.

In an earlier post you wrote "Its the chemtrail spraying lowering every one immune system"
You also wrote "you really can't co-neck the dots can you"
Which you edited to read "We all really have to can't co-neck the dots can you"
Now you post pictures of trails left by jets and claim they are chemtrails.
What proof do you have that they are not in fact just normal vapor trails?
How are you able to tell the difference between chemtrails and normal vapor trails?
The reason that some trails dissipate faster than others is that they are made at different altitudes and therefore are subject to many different conditions.
Also, what chemicals are being sprayed that are in fact affecting our immune systems?

Now as this is a preparedness website, please explain how we can prepare ourselves for the affects you claim are being perpetrated on us?



   
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(@anonymous)
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You sound just like the trolls and shill from the chemtrails groups I read.
How can you not tell the difference between a contrail and a chmetrail. this is what you should be asking. Have you taken the time to be out side and look at jets going buy. I have.

And yes i did change my post because you message me and said it was offensive or some such thing.

I can tell the difference because Mother Nature makes clouds not jet. The ones that DO evaporate obviously are normal condensation trails. The one's that don't evaporate and stay in the sky all day are chemtrails.

We can prepare ourselves for the affects of chemtrails by researching what is in them. But I'm thinking you don't even want to consider them as anything but normal. That aside, chemtrail spraying could effect our garden soils, water and of course our air. With so many different program for weather modification going on who to know whats what, and isn't it the unknown we prep for.

Hay man, if you don't like me and the subject just say so, there lots of other sites to inform people who would like this knowledge. You don't have to get all up in my face. 🙂



   
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(@denob)
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So Beth, I see you have become an expert on jet trails.
You have offered no insight as to what may be being sprayed or it's effects.
If you want to continue this discussion in another forum, please do so.
This forum is not the place for you.



   
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(@offthepath)
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We can prepare ourselves for the affects of chemtrails by researching what is in them.

Well, I cannot say this topic interests me in any great way, but your absolute belief in this is a bit astounding. The above line, is one which perplexes me, as I haven't seen you state exactly what this is...you being very versed on this subject, could you enlighten us all on what is in these supposed "chemtrails", and exactly how it affects us directly, with some proof? After all, if you haven't figured it out, with your passionnate interest, then how would anyone else...

Again, I think this a bit too fantasical for me, but open minds I will keep, if and when someone can show proof, and not just a "becasue I say so".

Cheers
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(@anonymous)
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I have a couple questions on the subject.

1) If sickness is the goal from these chemtrails then why not just drop a load of smallpox from the plane and be done with it.
2) Why do it over cities at all if the goal is to have a monopoly on seed by using GMO only.

I like many live rural and I only see a few jets passing per year. If destroying the land is the goal then they would have to fly out of the way by hundreds of miles to even cover a portion of the crop growing soil. I would be interested in finding a test kit for this however as to post some results on this forum.

I will keep an open mind on the subject but it still is inconclusive. I only really worry about my area since it directly affects me. If everyone had kits and took samples maybe proof would become main stream. Until then it is word of mouth to me.



   
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(@anonymous)
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You are so right, last post here.this inst the right spot for this conversion
All take it over to Clouds that are really chemtrails post. Then maybe you lads will start reading some post links there. And ask your self, what do I have to gain trying to convince people this is going on. I get no money, no fame, just a lot of time spent trying to get to the bottom of this. I want help , not blatant criticism.

You all backing up the wrong tree, you keep thinking this is one group of people with one plan.



   
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(@offthepath)
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Ok, back onto the topic at hand... is this publication that I noted the link to credible? If so, sounds like they're back to messing around with what could become a bit of a shot to the population if it ever escapes...anyone have any thoughts and or knowledge of this pulication and or the story?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2267478/Deadly-GM-flu-research-wipe-significant-portion-humanity-set-restart.html

Cheers
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(@anonymous)
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It is genuine and the information was printed in a number of main line newspapers around the world. One fact that I find disturbing is that some of research is taking place in Canada. Personally I feel this this line of research is one we could well do without. Just because we can do something does not mean that we should do something.



   
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(@anonymous)
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This research takes place with the conscent of Government. All research of every kind flows back to one of two Masters. Government and Corporations. Only they have the resources to make this happen. Talk to your MP and MPP. Ask questions and demand answers. Only with public involvement will this be stopped. Sadly anything they make will eventually be used... either accidentally or willfully.

JAB



   
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