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peppercorn
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I had to go to the big city today. While killing time I stopped at United cycle on the south side.I haven't been in there in something like 4 or more years. What a change from 4 years ago, over 1/2 of their bike inventory is now electric bikes, just row after row of electric bikes, a incredible assortment. I don't think any were under 3000.00 with the average in the 4000.00 dollar range. spotted one over 7000.00.

In talking with the salesman I gathered that they have no trouble selling them, his words where "once we let someone try one they wont go back to a non electric again". Its worth a trip to the store just to see the bikes, they are a world apart from bikes of my youth, in fact the way they can hydro form the body tubes now days, it makes some look like works of art!


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peppercorn
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Just got the call...my bike is in.


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enjoy!



   
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This bike is massive. I would more correctly call it a lite motor bike. I ordered the small frame model and it is huge. All the metal work looks good, strong construction, love the hydraulic brakes, lock up is instant. I will be replacing the seat post with a bodyfloat, Kenetic post, and add a jel seat. I don't like the petals...nothing wrong with them, I just don't like the feel of the bearings, or maybe its the yak fat they used for grease, I think I will switch these out. I will add cameras front and rear so if a truck takes me out at least there will be a record of how I died.

some assy required


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I hope the weather is good enough for you to take it out in the coming days.



   
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Wayne
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Sounds like fun. Motorised bicycles have provided a main form of transportation in Bermuda for over 50 years (weather helps). An electric bike would be so cool...


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Just playing with it in the basement....the controls for setting power assist are easy to use...great acceleration, well for 20 feet then I hit a wall...quiet, really quiet, I expected more motor noise..I bet this would be great for hunting.

For those wondering about range, from the biking forums I gather its extensive, here is a post from a guy down south of me in flat land Alberta.I quote.

182km my second charge I got 100km on PAS1 , flashing battery indicator 42V, 2h on charge backup to 50v.
I am liking the PSA1 it makes me feel like the super man!

So he got 82km on his first charge, and 100km on his second charge using the lowest power assist setting. His post was from 2016 and at that time they were using a much smaller battery on the Yukon 750. So I think it reasonable to expect not less than 100km on the lowest assist level now, Maybe more? or maybe the same distance but at a higher power assist level with this larger battery.

Not using power assist and pedaling, but just using the throttle like a motorcycle, I am gathering that roughly 50 km can be expected before needing recharging. I will have to rack up some miles to confirm this. Either way those are some pretty good numbers if you ask me!

Lots of things will change the distance you get....with a wind or against, your weight, your stance on the bike,what your carrying weighs, what type of terain, tire pressure, type of tires


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I just came in from a 10km trip, all throttle, no pedaling...a real blast going over snow and ice covered roads at 33-37km hr, but cold, I wasn't dressed for the wind at that speed. I am heading out again in a couple hrs to test night driving.

One thing I noticed right away is as I went past homes where normally the dogs would be running out barking, but I went by so fast and quiet I did not disturb them, no reaction at all!

edit...back from a short night ride. Just no tire noise moving over this snow and ice on the roads. The head light this bike comes with is great, it also has a red tail light. doesn't have signal lights though, still have to use hand signals but I think I should have no trouble building signal lights to add to this bike.


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What did you change for dressing for the cold? My neighbour is a regular bike guy and he sells "special" clothes for people that ride. Some of the stuff reminds me of wet / dry diving suits.



   
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What did you change for dressing for the cold? My neighbour is a regular bike guy and he sells "special" clothes for people that ride. Some of the stuff reminds me of wet / dry diving suits.

I just put a wind breaker over my cotton jacket, that stopped the wind from going through me on my second trip. Also put on insulated jeans, makes a big difference!

So I got into the programing/set up of this motor controler...This motor and controler is more capable than the specs it comes set too......if I have set things right I now should have it set for 1000 watts...I will have to wait until tomorrow to road test it. Why does this sound like a "hold my beer story" ?


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Wayne
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Are you not concerned about voiding the manufacturer's warranty? I know I'd be, but I don't possess your mechanical and technical ability when it comes to bicycles and electronics.


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Are you not concerned about voiding the manufacturer's warranty? I know I'd be, but I don't possess your mechanical and technical ability when it comes to bicycles and electronics.

There are two levels of programing/set up you can get into, I am and have gone into the first level only and that level every owner of the bike can do because the passcode to access those screens is in the owners manual, if they didnt want someone in there they shouldnt have left the passcode in the book. I had read of others changing the motor current and getting higher speed, I wanted to test that for myself, I bumped the motor current up 5 amps but as near as I can tell that did not give me a increase in speed at all, I believe it may have given me a bump up in torque though. I just dont need more torque so I will return the amp setting back to where it was set. Even though I have read up on electric bikes for a while, I got to learn the hard way by doing.

So I hammered out 20+ km tonight, in pitch darkness. What a blast. 7 km were using straight throttle, the rest testing out the different assist settings and getting a feel for how they work and what settings work best for me. This takes some getting used too, I will be a while yet until I am comfortable with getting the gear and power level settings right for me. A person can go from complete electric power where you are just along for the ride, to where you get a good work out. I did much of the ride at 30km and found just the right combination of gear and power setting for me, that I got a real good work out, my legs are going to be sore tomorrow. I laid down the bike once hard enough to knock the chain off, going to fast into a turn, nothing broke so far. Even thogh these are fat tires I should put studs on the front, I dont want to fall again at 30kmhr.


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Wayne
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Ice definately is not your friend. Shortly after I started the OPP I was assugned to motorcycle duty (at my request) . It was police policy not to ride in the rain (let alone the ice).

It's only a matter of time for an experienced rider to crash when riding in bad conditions. On the highway you don't have to worry about the fall as much as the vehicle behind running you over.

You may not have that problem in rural Alberta, but if the fall breaks your leg and you're in the ditch by yourself at night; you have a good chance of freezing to death before you're found... Be careful my friend.


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I didn't know about this when I bought the bike, but I just found a usb port on the battery. With the battery holding roughly 800watthrs when charged that's enough power storage to keep your devices charged up for...forever....ok I am exaggerating but not by much....

On the bike forums and other sites I have gathered that the average user of this bike is not some lycra clad, vegitarian that might come to mind when thinking about cycling. Most riders are 200 pounds plus, with one guy stating he was 270, stated this when comparing distances traveled per charge.
This got me to look the bike over a little closer as I thought that must be too much for this bike, but no it can handle the weight, the front spokes are a typical 13 gauge, but the rear is 10/11 gauge, much heavier. I didnt notice this when I first got the bike.


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oldschool
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now if they just made them with a cover on and heating, I would be sold 😉



   
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