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Taleisen
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Just joined this forum to try and spread some awareness and maybe learn a few things. To start off, I have been looking at ways to live sustainably within our country / province for quite afew years; permaculture, earth building, all the good things. But recent research points to the inability to live in Canada very soon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBa1fwo1iDQ

This video is a great explanation of the changes to come and the author has many other great ideas. The cats out of the bag ( http://www.spaceandscience.net/id16.html ) the Earth is not warming... it's cooling, which means Canada could be under a mile of ice atleast. Past ice ages have left this country uninhabitable and we are about to see much of the same. What really changes things is the speed in which ice ages have happened in the past, as fast as a single year (or as long as 50). From a prepping standpoint, this kind of thing should be worked into designs. Even our coming winter will be quite cold I believe, with blackouts from ice a looming concern. Volcanoes are releasing large amounts of SO2 into the atmosphere this year, reflecting sunlight and dropping our air temperatures.

Best of luck.



   
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 Syn
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I think the relatively recent fluctuations in the jetstream is attracting attention with the weird weather and extremes but few are fathoming how much more drastic that could get and few seem to be looking hard past polar ice melt at the issues that arise when the thermohaline currents stall and cease functioning as we have known them. It is a really hard call.
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https://www.coursera.org/course/climatechange



   
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Taleisen
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Thanks for the info, looks like an interesting course!



   
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ralfy
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Well the Earth went through a mini-ice age and cooling pattern in the 1700's. That was in some sense the cause of much of the French Revolution and all the social upheavals in Europe and the Americas. The impact on the food supply chain and the over use of wood to heat homes in Europe was tremendous. I can see such easily repeating.



   
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ralfy: +1



   
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From

http://www.skepticalscience.com/going-down-the-up-escalator-part-1.html

So your saying skeptics base there information on a graph dating from 1973? Lol. Tell me the newly named "realists" don't base there theory on info. From 1973..... 😉


https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738


   
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 Syn
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I tend to wonder how the freshwater/saltwater convection at the poles is going to continue functioning with ocean currents as we know them now , or if we will be in for a very different scenario than the ocean currents as we have known them ? The methane release continues and the ocean is acidifying faster than ever predicted presumably from global warming .



   
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Taleisen
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I second your curiosity, once the Atlantic Ocean conveyor stops things could get real ugly. There seem to be far to many variables for anyone to pinpoint an exact outcome (ISON, Agenda 21, Ice Ages, Fuk, crust displacement) atleast I have not found anyone who can tie all aspects together. But it's obvious we are in for one hell of a change very soon, but that's why we are all here, get your wool sweaters handy 😉



   
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 Syn
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Your right, who can tie it all together ? I don't think anyone truly has but a lot of great minds are working on it . Who pays for that , well that information may be filtered down before it goes public as governments and corporates mostly fund these things . It isn't just the Atlantic Conveyor, it is all the ocean currents as the worlds glaciers and the Antarctic is also melting causing crustal displacement of weight and difference in the salt and fresh water vaccuum there. The oceans currents are the drivers of much of our air currents are they not? So I am suspecting weather world wide may begin shifting potentially to extremes we have never seen since humankind walked the earth . I think it very hard to predict , factor in things no one is talking about like how crust subduction presently works , might it too alter? There are so many scientists working on this right now modelling outcomes but no one really knows exactly where this is headed in 100 years but in a thousand I would speculate mammals might not exist. I would not locate to any low lying coastal cities. Vancouver, San DIego , Florida and much of the Gulf of Mexico are not good real estate investments long term. All of this drives changes in weather, soil and water acidity , food production, fresh water scarcity , key animal extinctions , refugee flow , economics and you know what ? Our governments are already advised by consultants on this for well over a decade and have been positioning themselves whether that is for our benefit or their own , corporations are profit taking , religions manuevering and so forth . Read this, first I have seen mention of how temperature actually changes the volume of water we will be dealing with . I admit I am weak of science. But I can figure out rising population, competition for diminishing resources , a degraded environment and climate shift is going to cause huge migrations of people ( the most dangerous mammal ) and strife .

http://www.nature.com/news/climate-science-rising-tide-1.13749



   
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ralfy
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So your saying skeptics base there information on a graph dating from 1973? Lol. Tell me the newly named "realists" don't base there theory on info. From 1973..... 😉

What I'm saying is that claims of cooling are based on short-term pauses. The long-term trend is upward.

So much for that LOL. 🙄



   
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