Condo Development

Ok back onto the idea if someone dies that bought a unit

lets say it is before any shtf. who gets the unit ? Lets say it is sold , to whom, I mean
who picks out who can buy it ?
how is that sale arranged ? Do the other owners have to buy out that unit to prevent
some unknown coming in and pay the estate of the deceased owner ?

Another problem , lets say someone bought a unit, then shtf and then the person
gets to their unit but brings along another person to share their unit with, a person
that the community has not checked out and approved.

Not trying to be negative, just trying to get everyones brain thinking

Doesn't the law of inheritance still apply? Next of kin, kids etc?

I vote for turning the spare unit into a party room! Or common area for storage garage etc until needed.

@Goldie: The Condo Act provides for individual legislation that prevents that sort of thing, seriously read it, it's a messed up set of laws.

@Bandit86: Woo Party!!! To be serious though, vet people before joining, simple as that. If you do nothing for yourself and everything for your community, then every single person other than you is technically working to make your life better and the same can be said for every person there. The nice thing about condos is that its private and you can refuse to sell to people you don't want to sell to.

- all of this being said -
I've also been looking into The Innkeepers Act...a hotel classification may also be a really good way to go for many OTHER reasons; one of them includes commercial building codes which if you read carefully let you legally make a damn riot-proof building with no one looking at you funny for doing it, no investigations or inspectors with empty wallets wanting to get them filled to let you do anything.

Yes, build something for crazy people , those are solid " riot proof " buildings to prevent escapes
and people getting inside , LOL , we are all crazy aren't we ? LOL

I don't think that law of inheritance would work, as just because you might leave it in your will
to lets say your sibling or grown up kids, they might not be the right person(s) for a particular community.
SHTF might happen soon or 50 - 100 years from , or never, nobody knows, so people might not like thinking
they would invest in something and find that they lost all their money. Also people could
find the need to move and want to resell their unit. So those people would also need to be
able to wait for their sale of their unit.

I think after you die, your unit would need to be sold , not left in your will to someone that might not fit in,
or think that they show up in SHTF and the community look after them and they don't have to contribute,
unless you have a family registered for you unit , then they would already be part of it ,
however the sale to someone would need to be arranged by the community privately,
and that might mean waiting awhile before it is sold, so the estate would need to wait for its money.
Since it is not a type of unit that you would advertise in the real estate
" PREPPERS PARADISE # 1 ,, LOCATION : LOVELY SETTING ON THE XYZ LAKE WITH EASY ACCESS
follow HWY # 89 and look for red outside , then turn right on OCEANVIEW road and follow for 2 km " ..
You are trying to keep the location secret.

Yes a hotel innkeepers concept is another good idea.

Another problem, what happens if everyone moves in and then there is no SHTF , soon you
have a community of elderly aging preppers, are they then asked to leave ?

@Goldie: do you guy not have kids? lol - elderly preppers hehe, no a community that really was formed to take care of itself would continue I would assume, though with the changing of the guard we have seen far too often entire empires crumble let alone a self-sustaining village

correct NO kids

- all of this being said -
I've also been looking into The Innkeepers Act...a hotel classification may also be a really good way to go for many OTHER reasons; one of them includes commercial building codes which if you read carefully let you legally make a damn riot-proof building with no one looking at you funny for doing it, no investigations or inspectors with empty wallets wanting to get them filled to let you do anything.

You lost me on this one. Your saying its easier to build a hardened structure under the inn keepers act? Interesting concept, but not sure how that would work.

Basically your thinking of one giant structure with multiple units for residence right? Or several smaller structures like someone mentioned a gated community? I know there is a fairly active meetup group looking into something similar in SW Ontario and wondering what would differ from that one.

You lost me on this one. Your saying its easier to build a hardened structure under the inn keepers act? Interesting concept, but not sure how that would work.

Basically your thinking of one giant structure with multiple units for residence right? Or several smaller structures like someone mentioned a gated community? I know there is a fairly active meetup group looking into something similar in SW Ontario and wondering what would differ from that one.

A hardened structure can be built using commercial building code standards without scrutiny and with far less investigation. As for the difference, I am looking into the logistics of the endeavor, the legal aspects of it and while the topic swings to the community itself a lot (no problem with that), my focus is on how best this kind of thing can be done with camouflage; the best place to hide is in plain sight.

You lost me on this one. Your saying its easier to build a hardened structure under the inn keepers act? Interesting concept, but not sure how that would work.

Basically your thinking of one giant structure with multiple units for residence right? Or several smaller structures like someone mentioned a gated community? I know there is a fairly active meetup group looking into something similar in SW Ontario and wondering what would differ from that one.

A hardened structure can be built using commercial building code standards without scrutiny and with far less investigation. As for the difference, I am looking into the logistics of the endeavor, the legal aspects of it and while the topic swings to the community itself a lot (no problem with that), my focus is on how best this kind of thing can be done with camouflage; the best place to hide is in plain sight.

Build one large house with 12 granny suites. 12 little 1 or 2 bedroom and small kitchen and bathroom houses under one roof all for yourself. And if you happen to have friends over then so be it.

Better idea is one larger building like a paddock or a barn, 1 trailer per family. Call it an indoor storage but basically Like an indoor campground. Maybe a 100 x100 steel building. Keeps most of the elements out. Then the little insulation in a trailer is more adequate. That sort of structure would allow 2 trailer per each of 10 family and substantial indoor parking for vehicles in the middle or up to 20 Permanent trailers, 30 decent trailers can be cramped all indoors. And since trailers are family owned if we don't like you then take your trailer and you're out its done. Small condo fee like a trailer park To keep roof an stuff covered.

an 8'6 by 30 ft trailer is 240 square feet, 2 of them almost like a small apartment. Can be made connected if there are kids around.

Good idea Bandit86

If we don't like you , you can take your trailer and hit the road . It does make investing in such
an idea less scary because you can take your BOL-trailer with you .

Good idea Bandit86

If we don't like you , you can take your trailer and hit the road . It does make investing in such
an idea less scary because you can take your BOL-trailer with you .

The more I think about this trailer idea the more I like it. If one has the means to weld a triple axle frame under a 40 ft container it's a perfect mobile home.

It wouldn't be easy. Worst thing is to get stuck with a freeloader. If there is a problematic family can they be made to leave?

This is simple - and another reason i'm a huge proponent of smart business development and marketing when working on projects like this - you simply factor in a contribution to a slush-fund for every share sold.

That "slush fund" should be handled by a competent financial adviser. This fund is held in reserve to help alleviate the community in case of dire emergencies or in the event that one individual/family needs to be "voted out". They would receive back a significant portion of their initial $ buy-in, and be told to hit the road. Of course the original business agreement they signed to be included in the initiative in the first place would give them zero viable recourse to drag the process out or make life difficult for the community.

The community is strengthened by subtraction, and the booted party is out just a few $ and some time (not effort, since their lack thereof is the reason they've been removed).

Anyone who fails to plan for such a contingency, has no business pushing to build a community, as they're naive and unable to deal with the realities of managing people. As soon as you have more than one person... somebody works harder than somebody else.

It wouldn't be easy. Worst thing is to get stuck with a freeloader. If there is a problematic family can they be made to leave?

This is simple - and another reason i'm a huge proponent of smart business development and marketing when working on projects like this - you simply factor in a contribution to a slush-fund for every share sold.

That "slush fund" should be handled by a competent financial adviser. This fund is held in reserve to help alleviate the community in case of dire emergencies or in the event that one individual/family needs to be "voted out". They would receive back a significant portion of their initial $ buy-in, and be told to hit the road. Of course the original business agreement they signed to be included in the initiative in the first place would give them zero viable recourse to drag the process out or make life difficult for the community.

The community is strengthened by subtraction, and the booted party is out just a few $ and some time (not effort, since their lack thereof is the reason they've been removed).

Anyone who fails to plan for such a contingency, has no business pushing to build a community, as they're naive and unable to deal with the realities of managing people. As soon as you have more than one person... somebody works harder than somebody else.

We're here because of a common idea and looking to others of similar mind for help. We're not good at everything just because you thought of something and others didn't there is no need to run them down that's rude. A farmer is competent at what he does just because he doesn't know ho to run a grocery store you shouldn't tell him to get out of the produce business

@Oddmott: you're not welcome to post here again. Smeg off you self-centered, egotistical capitalist douche.

@Oddmott: you're not welcome to post here again. Smeg off you self-centered, egotistical capitalist douche.

Oh good I wasn't the only one offended. But please keep this forum civil and refrain from name calling were men and therefore better than that.

Oh good I wasn't the only one offended. But please keep this forum civil and refrain from name calling were men and therefore better than that.

That wasn't name calling, that was blunt honesty...I can do name calling, but I think it would get me banned.