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(@henry)
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I just returned from a "pig roast"on My sons farm in Timmins.There were over hundred people in there.Most of the day and night it was just eating, drinking and talking.I bet I talk to most of those people and was shocked how fast just about everybody start talking about the changes and disasters We are going trough.I just realize that 70-80% of people (of different background ) believe that something is just about to happen or will happen.But when you start talking about preparedness for any disaster they just do not want to hear it or just say "yes maybe I should "and that how far they would go.It looks like everybody knows just do not want to believe it.SHOCKING. Henry



   
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sailor
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It's called "Normalcy Bias":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias



   
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(@anonymous)
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It's called "Normalcy Bias":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normalcy_bias

And here I thought that those people had ostrich blood in them.



   
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PrepHer
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Very interesting Henry. I went to a simiar, but smaller event yesterday and talked witha man who had actually spent the last 30 years organizing an 'intentional community' on 150 acres less than an hour from
Me!
Preparing by being a sustainable community



   
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(@rogue)
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I think most have experiences with people just like that henry.

Family is what really concerns me most, in most things.

I have two daughters with families. One set are outdoors and rugged but total non-preppers. Life's too busy for that crap. (Hey, they might be right I'm not judging.) Fact is though they live rural in an old farm house that's set up to be pretty independant. Wood stoves, lots of firewood, a well etc. They have every bush vehicle and boat one could image and both are familiar with the bush and hunting. They also have the "tools" to do whatever they need to do and know well how to use them. I don't worry as much about their lack of concern. That doesn't mean I don't talk with them about stocking up a bit. The reason that house is set up so well is because it was mine on eighty acres and I sold it to them. they also have ample storage areas created in the basement of the house to stock.

My other half don't have the same means to live with the disposable income. He is one of these folks who fall into the Consipiracy believers in every extreme of the term. "Niburu is coming and the Government knows it." He is of the firm belief that the world is going to struck with cataclysmic event on Dec. 21st. But he does nothing. He talks alot about self-defense and offence but doesn't even take the primary step to get his hunting license or POL to begin and prepare himself. Even when I promote that idea by offering to pay for the courses it's always; yeah I'm going to do that SOON. Talks about the need for a take-away kit and "building a dug-out in the bush, but doesn't have one and certainly doesn't have too many callouses from that shovel either. Talk is cheap for that type of person, (and monotonously boring to a point of being annoying.) My daughter actually had to tell him that he wasn't allowed to talk about it anymore with their three young boys around. Please don't get me wrong, he's not a bad guy, to me he's just a kid that doesn't have two gains of sense to rub together.

There's my concern; three (of the greatest-if I do say so myself) boys and my daughter's welfare. Not that I'm not there for him but they're my worry. She's well-versed in gardening, herbs, home remedies and medicinal,food-type foraging in the bush and could probably live with little and build a shelter etc if necessary. She doesn't have the survival skills to provide protein for herself or her kids out there but has experience living in the bush with little. Over the years since she was very young I've totally supported her interests by suppying her with reading material, helping establish her gardens, listening to what she has learned (learning from her) and supplying courses about all of those things; week long retreats with native peoples studying medicinal harvesting. Heck I've even gone with her on a couple of them just to foster and support her interests. Just like I did with my other daughter with hunting, fishing, orienteering and "roughing it" in the bush.

I suppose everyone has many concerns about the people that they love and what they percieve the future might be for them. Most of my prep at home goes into ensuring I can support my one daughter, her three boys and husband as well. My wife is also a concern I prep for. She is of the firm believe that life will always run along just as it does today and although she doesn't condem or criticize my want to stock she doesn't participate actively either. She doesn't roll her eyes and comment on silliness, but I'm not the type of person you would probably do that to at the best of times; or she might. She's my second wife of not too many years and comes from the cities of Southern Ontario. She wouldn't stand a chance for a week out there and would be challenged even in a domestic bunked in scenario.

It's difficult to come to terms with wanting for everyone. I think the best any of us can do is what we do - our best, and hope if the day comes when anything might happen we can at least know we've done that much. I gave up on listening to other people's opions or judging other complaniency a long way back. Fact is I don't even talk to strangers (people outside my family) at all. That's why I appreciate these blogs, reasonable and like-minded people.

It's great to be able to talk with people who are interested in it.



   
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(@rogue)
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PrepHer it would be really interesting to read more about this "intentional community' and what that's all about if you could find the time 🙂 .



   
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(@anonymous)
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Rogue

Beans and spinach have enough protein. I prefer fish or chicken but have gone several months on a vegan diet.



   
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(@henry)
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PrepHer - The community is good idea but I have seen too many cases where people got together (even family members)and they were always fighting even ended in a court.You have to find people that really trust each other (with life).It is different in emergency when basically you have no choice and your life depend also on somebody's.For me it is very important to get to know people I can trust at present time and get together in emergency.That is just My opinion end life experience. Henry.



   
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PrepHer
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Thanks Henry and Rogue, but I don't know very much about this. Just that approval from 'local council' must be obtained to change zoning for multiple units on the land. People will be 'screened', you can be sure. But I think there is already a core group that has worked together on issues for many, many years already. It's not a BOL but a ongoing sustainable community of like-minded individuals. It has taken almost 30 years to get to THIS point of development!
And I'm almost sure there are others out there who have done/doing the same thing.
It was really refreshing meeting a person like that who shared ideals



   
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(@oddduck)
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PrepHer - The community is good idea but I have seen too many cases where people got together (even family members)and they were always fighting even ended in a court.You have to find people that really trust each other (with life).It is different in emergency when basically you have no choice and your life depend also on somebody's.For me it is very important to get to know people I can trust at present time and get together in emergency.That is just My opinion end life experience. Henry.

And you have to be willing for others to hear and comment and judge you on your personal family hassles and vise versa. If you cannot stay married to one person for 30 years then you might not manage to marry a community successfully either. This stuff is hard. It is not always the fault of the other guy. (excepting at my house of course)



   
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I had trouble staying married for 17 years, (most likely my fault but I doubt it). My friend that knows me more than she should , said that my ex was lucky that the marriage lasted that long. 😕


"We 'Prep.' to live after a downfall, Not just to survive."


   
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(@henry)
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Hey OddDuck just to let to know You I have been married for over 40 years (same women) and enjoy it more than 40 years ago Henry and his loving wife Jara Henry



   
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(@oddduck)
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Good for you Henry, I've only managed 33 years.



   
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(@henry)
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I heard somebody say: I realize how good my first wife was only after I married my second wife. That why I stick around. Henry



   
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