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(@anonymous)
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Evening All,

Now that this Special Forum is open, let's take it for a test drive.

The mind is something that is wasted if it is not used to it's maximum potential. To that end, let us explore a few topics and differing points of view; to see how much mental excercise we can endure. I am sure all who visit here will be willing to contribute a thought, opinion or fact to the discussions that will develop in the very near future.

I will open this particular flood gate - governments that do not respect their own citizens.

I grew up having a friend, who was a teenager when the Nazi's invaded Denmark. They killed his girlfriend. He lived the remainder of his life as a bachelor. He instilled in me a healthy distrust of blindly believing any given government. Gun control is the very first step at controlling a people. I was taught to keep an eye on my government leaders and whenever the topic of gun control showed up, it was time to keep an even closer eye on them. The people give power to the elected members of government. Personal firearms ownership ensures that the power will be returned to the people when needed. And every government understands that very fact. However, if the people can be tricked to give up their firearms - they can also be tricked to give up their freedom, liberty and any other right.

After the guns, the next personal item that is harvested are the books in personal bookshelves and libraries. The control of knowledge and ideas limits the response of people to what they know. If you know too much, it will not be just the books that disappear.

The last stage is the "Jack Boots" marching through the neighbourhood to ensure you are behaving correctly.

Of course, it takes quite awhile to find everyone who knows something that can spawn a resistance. Unless, of course your neighbour(s) rats you out.

Then again, why would the government want to do that? I mean it is guns that hurt people. And words in books that cause dangerous anti-society thoughts that lead to civil unrest and anarchy. For our collective security it would be best to turn in our firearms, ammo, books, emergency preparedness supplies and wait to be told when and where to go in the event on an emergency.

Thinking caps on, pens poised........write!!!

Cheers,

Mountainman.



   
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Sadly, mankind does not learn from past history. I believe that people have an innate belief in good conquering evil. As a result, a majority of people will stand around and wait for things to get better even as they watch their neighbours disappearing. Think of the Warsaw Ghetto, Estimated at 400,000 people, 1/3 the population of the city. If they hadn't had blind faith in what they were being told and had resisted, maybe history would have had a different ending. Now also consider that this was in 1941-42. They MUST have known what was happening around them but continued to endure in those atrocious conditions!
So fast forward 70 years.....
Our population still believes what is told to them. They continue to deny what is going on around them and blindly places their future in the hands of a government that would pretty much consider them collateral damage in the event of a national emergency!
The resistance will come from the fanatics and the far left. But because their opinions differ from the "norm" they will be considered the enemy of the state and will in all probability targeted first.
As preppers, we need to continue what we are doing. Keep our heads down, shut up and watch. Time will allow us to see who we can trust and rely on but until then, I believe it will be some lonely times until the world sorts itself out and the chaff has been separated from the grain.
Hide your guns, digitize your books and blend in.



   
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Mountainman said
"I mean it is guns that hurt people. And words in books that cause dangerous anti-society thoughts that lead to civil unrest and anarchy. For our collective security it would be best to turn in our firearms, ammo, books, emergency preparedness supplies and wait to be told when and where to go in the event on an emergency."

We have very strict gun control laws in Australia and you just about have to jump through hoops and turn cartwheels to prove that you need one and to acquire a license to own one - these new "laws" came about mainly due to the Port Arthur massacre and yet I don't believe that the introduction of these laws has lessened the crime rate at all. I realise that Mountainman made the above quote with tongue firmly in cheek, but some people actually do believe it.
When a politician from one country visits another country to "hob-nob" with the Gov't officials there, they make brash statements & they do dirty deals and not once are they thinking about the "little people"......think about former (and current) serving military personnel - their lives are (and have been) turned upsidedown due to the whims of politicians who sent them into battle and yet when these brave men and women return with psychological and/or physical damage are they looked after? Think on that for a while and then decide if your Gov't has your best interests at heart.....
The following clip is NOT for sensitive souls so viewer discretion is advised:-
https://mail.google.com/mail/?hl=en&shva=1#inbox/138bb6015fa98019


Russell Coight....outback legend


   
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(@anonymous)
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Howdy,

Now we are getting to the meat and potatoes!! Keep those great comments coming.

With open eyes you can see, but of course, we are mainly singing to the choir around here. To those lurkers out there, spread the word.

Thanks for keeping this topic going and on topic.

Cheers,

Mountainman.



   
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I believe it has been proven time and again; you take away the guns/knives/swords from the regular people and Crime and Gangs spring up, then the Government takes Jack Booted Control of the population.



   
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Mountainman said
"After the guns, the next personal item that is harvested are the books in personal bookshelves and libraries. The control of knowledge and ideas limits the response of people to what they know. If you know too much, it will not be just the books that disappear."

OK, so we already have gun control here (Aust)and it's obviously not going to change any time soon for us, so that leaves the next step to be addressed. What sort of reading materials do you think could be considered as "essential to control for the good of the masses" or do you think it would be just books that could be deemed "subversive" that would be taken?


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I don't know about you, but I hear the clack - clack - clack of boots every day. Digital information is easy to burn. It leaves no smoke.
Gun control through pop cultural alienation. We are but one generation away from raising children who will never read the written word from paper. The war for the heart and mind is over, and freedom lost.



   
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underprepared,

Very astute observation and comment on the current social engineering currently underway with the next generation.

Susannah,

I would expect any topic that encourages freedom of thought and expression, freedom of ownership, how-to build just about anything - but especially how-to build firearms, knives, or pretty much any other weapon, books on self-sufficiency - from growing your own food to making your own electrical power or vehicle fuels. I, personally, do not think they will be on the round up of religious materials this time around, as many people are turning away from the Church without much influence from governments. It would be counter-productive to hammer down on the Word of the Church at this time, because it may encourage the masses to return to protect the Church. It would also cause a return to Faith. Atheists are easier to control when the governments are seen as the supreme power. The Church Faithful believe in a power that is many times as powerful than a mere government. So, I think the burning of religious works will not be as popular as in the past.

Now as for altering or purging e-books and e-texts....that is a curious point. But, just as easy as it is to make these e-books disappear from one sources they are also the easiest format of written text to spread to remote parts of the globe and save on external hard drives or flash drives or thumb drives or be burned onto DVD's in PDF format. So, underprepared you are correct there is no smoke in the sky when they make the e-texts disappear. But then again, they will never know if they got every copy. It would be advisable for those in the prepping community to maintain a digital and a hard copy library of the books they personally feel are important for today and tomorrow. What is that old saying, something about....those who do not know their history are doomed to repeat it.....or words to that effect.

The next major group of books would be the sciences and engineering. The how and why topics.

Of course, any books on military sciences will be sought out and removed from civilian hands. That goes without saying, the few in power do not want any competition.

Social engineering, the process of how the few control the many. So long as the few have good intentions and the interests of the many first and foremost in their minds, I suspect social engineering is not evil. Of course, any technology is neutral, it is those who have control of it who determine what purpose to use it for - good or evil. That I guess is part of the human condition.

So, if you missed your opportunity to bury some firearms before they were outlawed in your area. Maybe now is a good time to consider caching a few USB drives with your favourite reading materials. Just a thought.

Take care out there folks,

Mountainman.



   
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Gun control here is extremely strict, but guns aren't totally outlawed - pistols, semi-auto etc are not available to the general masses, but shotguns, 22's etc are obtainable once your police background check comes back clean, you have a lockable gun safe installed in your home and you already belong to a "sporting" gun club (then, and only then, can you purchase your gun!).

Re: controlling information:- I imagine that downloading (prepper/survivalist) information from net sources would mean that "someone" was keeping an eye out on who accessed what. Would this be correct? I know that any kindle purchases I have made have been tracked and when other books in the same genre are available I get emails notifying me 😯 (non-fiction books that are usually free).


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We are always being wathced and monitored. The issue gets their attention when you do something interesting.

Luckily for most of us, we live mainly boring lives. We are not interesting enough to draw their full attention.

To stay off the radar continue to be boring - get up go to work, come home go to bed. Whoop it up on weekends. Monday go back to work.

Or maybe I am wrong and they are adding me to their list as we speak and a big black car with blacked-out windows will be parked outside my house when I get home after work. Then a couple nice guys in nice suits with dark glasses will invite me to go for a ride????????? Remember kids, don't ride with strangers!!!

Mountainman.



   
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😆 My life is quite boring so I guess I've got nothing to worry about! As for getting into cars with strangers 😯 ....


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There was a program on CBC yesterday replaying interviews with Pierre Trudeau during the October Crisis of 1970. I don't think we need to look as far back as Nazi Germany to find examples of suspension of civil liberties. Why, even look at Boston today and see empty streets, people asked to remain in doors, and commerce suspended while all of the branches of authority hunt down a single 19 year old nut bar. Door to door searches and what not. What happens to those citizens who say, "you are not welcome to come and search my home."?

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One thing is for sure, for those who though that the government could never effectively shut down an entire city a re-think is in order.



   
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ICRCC,
true though this was on a limited scale searching for people the Sheeple wanted caught so full cooperation.
different story when it would be mass spread events, very different.

but i do agree
(ps. today is national No Caps day so do not write anything with caps today)
http://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=3648&start=10



   
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If the general population buys the story next time (as they did this time) there will be the same result. Right now if people are told that it is in their best interest they believe it without question.



   
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