Do You Worry That Your Guns Will Be Confiscated in SHTF?

I think the powers that be will respond to mass evacuations like they did in Alberta. They will use the same justification as they did then. You are correct that those powers have a list of all the restricted firearms you own and your property will be targeted for action if needed. As you know, in Canada we don't have the right to own restricted firearms for the reason of self defense. Nor are we allowed to spread them around in various places (garages, vehicles, BOL's, etc...). They all have to be properly stored at your principal residence in case the CFO wants to take a peek. While this all might sound depressing, all is not lost.
What the law is telling you (and me) is "don't think you're going to be allowed to play Dirty Harry on the street if things get bad". And you know what? I'm perfectly ok with that. The last thing I want to worry about during an evacuation is that some sleep deprived, stressed out person is going to pull a piece on me because my kid accidentally cut in front of him.
There are plenty of things sold every day that are viable, legal defensive items. There are also lots of legal hunting firearms that don't need to registered.
Boiled down, what I'm saying is don't paint yourself into a corner with one handgun and 4000 rounds of 9mm ammo thinking you're good to go. The fact is, you're probably going to loose that particular item pretty early on. One of the main things about prepping in general is that we have back-ups and back-ups to those back-ups. Don't get stressed out about it.

I have put a lot of thought into this problem. I do not have any hand guns or restricted rifles, I don't want the RCMP knowing how many or what kinds of firearms I have in my household or whatever; it's bad enough they know that I have an unrestricted licence, so they will assume I have something for sure, but I don't take much pictures of them or post the collection on u-tube or whatever. This leads into my next idea. Having an easily noticeable gun cabinet on the main floor with guns that I am willing to lose to confiscation; a sks, .22lr semi auto, old but still usable 30-06 or whatever. This will allow me to hide my other better rifles around and allow me to say, "Yes officer, that's all the weapons I have you can look around if you like, I just had a few for target shooting, hunting and what not" While the best or my collection is hidden around in other cabinets, in other houses, and if things start looking more dire in pvc tubes in the ground on my property or in the woods or whatever, I have a few pipes here and there on my property and friends and family property (currently empty of course), with well then 3/4 of my ammo stock. Their are numerous ways of hiding them, always has been, always will be! so I can not give away all my idea's and habits 🙂 I also have a few can's of bear spray, some large some smaller and all highly effective within 12 feet and closer, the closer the better mind you but not to close as well; they are great for clearing small rooms, denying access to hallways, stopping cars and trucks at intersections, stopping multiply attackers in the open, ect. But be very careful and have at least some practice with these, get the wind the wrong way or do something or move the wrong way and you could be the one in big troubles. Next, every outdoorsmen has a few good knife's for hunting and what not laying around. They are always a good basic weapon. But if all else fails, you'll have to be creative. The mind is truly the most dangerous weapon a person has, and people are able to make everyday items into some pretty sick and twisted things. Think of acids or bleach in a water gun or stray bottle, or a bunch of rocks or pool ball in a long sock or how about glass and nails latched to a wooden broom or pole of some kind. You get the point, eeks! People often do not want to mess with the crazy person armed with such contraptions, but situation is everything and you don't want to attract unwanted police attention. I never want to say to be offensive and all. I would rather not have to engage in any attack or attackers. Every situation is a possible risk to me, and without someone knowledgeable person about 1st aid and more advanced medical and supplies this could be very harmful to my personnel survival. Cuts and infections in a SHTF situation or out in the wild boonies is a possible death sentence in it's self. I do plan on being as peaceful as possible and hiding around as much as possible. But you just never know, so play it as it comes, and keep that mind a ticking!

Guns in a SHTF scenario is a very grey area indeed but even though I have my PAL I have yet to purchase a weapon. When I do, it will be a shotgun for bears, noise and scare tactics only. For a SHTF scenario you have to think of the con's more than the pro's. The pro's allow you to live another day. The con's however allow you to have visitors later that day or the next from the "kin" of the one you shot or an entire gang who now knows you are there or the new so called "law" enforcement agency that will without a doubt rise up. They will come for your gun(s) and quite possibly you and yours out of your home for you to be tried in their new so called courts of law and you can imagine how this would all go down from there. Basically... in my opinion... a gun used on a human at any time, even in post poc type storylines... it doesnt end well for the shooter. Best bet... hide. Don't be seen. Live to fight another day and do it with Vietcong stealth if you must. A silent invisible killer is feared. A loud killer is found and killed quickly 9.9 times out 10 I figure.

No matter how I play out any kind of problem in my mind... I fair better without the gun in a SHTF scenario. There will always be inherent risks with every day above ground if/when that time comes but I truly think stealth at all times is the key to survival. There is no honor amongst the desperate so if you shoot one, expect many the next day or that one you shot to do their very best to seek vengeance. Your firing your weapon has made things worse big time.

A gun for food is one thing and the idea of a gun for protection is another thing. I tend to think the latter is heavily romanticized in peoples minds just like the idea of bugging out and living off the land is. Both are really really not good idea's.

Thanks for all the replies so far. I've got the odd knife and can of bear spray, but now that you bring it up, I think I'll get more. If I don't use them for defense I can trade them.

Regarding the idea of being safer without a gun, I respect your stance, and you may turn out to be right.

But the man in the article attributed his survival to a well armed group that hid when possible but also mounted a strong defense when needed. If people get to the point of tearing apart empty houses for firewood, they'll probably have found and confronted you long before.

Don't get me wrong, I plan to keep a low profile. But if cornered, I really want to have firepower. And preferably enough of it so that I can form a group.

I could not agree more, have options is great and I highly recommend it but still having and be willing and able to use higher levels of force when it become apparent that you must in order to continue on. When you face attackers, gangs or what have you armed with guns using anything but equal or greater fire-power is often the difference between, died, robbed, taken advantage of or having such people think or know your not worth the fire fight and to go looking for easier targets, which they will. The situation will dictate the amount of force required. Also your own numbers of people greatly increases this view points effectiveness.

Wow all I can say is wow reminds me of Africa lol

They will be coming with me...nothing to confiscate. If the cops are going through your house...the looters will be there too, and probably first.

Good point glockman
But can we just take our guns and leave in a shtf situation

No law against transporting non restricted firearms and ammo. Restricted is a bit more of a problem.....Although I seriously doubt law enforcement with be worried about someone transporting with al the other s**t going on in a SHTF scenario...most will be taking care of their own families. Any on duty won't bother you unless you do something to attract attention.

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Prefer having mostly non-restricted firearms to avoid issues with gov't and LEOs.
However, nothing "theoretically" wrong with purchasing a "few" restricted items for which you are licensed.

However, one could "stage" a burglary and report a couple of the restricted items as stolen in their cases.
But take it from me ... if you're going to stage it, do it right !
NOTE: I am not: 1) advising one do so; or, 2) going to be party to providing the said free instructions.

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Hahahahahaha good one Deneb

I'm not so much concerned about confiscation at my primary residence during bug in. There will be lots of lead time and warnings (either targeted house calls from government registries or door-to-door sweeps). I'm more concerned about confiscation and other problems during bugging out.

I live in the city and my bug out is out in the country. Unless the SHTF rapidly and severely, I'm likely going to delay bugging out for at least a few days, to protect property and figure things out (especially if mass media communications are down or can't be trusted).

My bug out destination is 200km from the city, and requires travel across a few rivers which require bridge crossings (read: chokepoints) I'm anticipating either government or bandits will have seized the high value ones to control movement and confiscate property of interest (best case scenario). I have multiple routes planned in attempt to avoid obvious traps, but ultimately there are only so many ways to get there. Regardless of who controls any checkpoint, I think we can agree that any firearm/ammunition found will be taken away.

So here are the options I'm considering:

Option 1: Build secret compartment in vehicle to hide firearms/valuables. Access from passenger section likely means less disguising(more easily found). Non access from passenger section means not accessible rolling down the road (but unless they take the vehicle apart, they ain't finding anything).

Option 2: Travel by foot only. Less likely to get stopped but a 2 hr trip by vehicle would take a week by foot (given the need to stay off roads, travel at night, unconventional water crossings, etc). I'm fine with handling all aspects of the travel by foot, it is just the added time and the limited amount of gear I could bring.

Option 3: Don't bring any firearms/ammo with during bugout by vehicle - long term store at city residence or tradeoff for other items

Lastly I should note that I already have some firearms/ammo stored at the bugout location to enable hunting/protection there, so bringing firearms along while traveling to bugout location, would only be for protection purposes during travel to bugout location.

After reading all this i have to say none of you have any idea what happens real world, this stuff only good when it is a medium level recoverable incident, ie natural disaster. And even then think of katrina and the cops protecting the rich and hanging "looters" off bridge to deter people.

if you have your weapon stowed you will die defenseless, refugees get fucked because they are weak and defenseless thinking people will help them... yeah some will help themselves to all your stuff, and this means to your women and children. you want some fear you talk to people who worked in a camp and you will hear tales that make you nightmares seem like a best birthday party memory. Make you think twice if you go with only strong words and a pocket knife which you dont know how to fight with going 5+ on one because they all fight fair.

Someone made a comment that since no handguns he feels equal and more protected... are you really that dumb? you think a criminal will leave his at home? A cop? So you are happy that you are bringing knife to a gun fight .... tell me how it goes for you

everyone talks about being able to handle a firefight, i know different, in military we train and still have lots of fuck ups that die stupidly. you think a few movies makes you ready for killing/ defending yourself.. maybe a stranger biggest problem will be those you know and know that you prep... can you do that and live with yourself? If you have a group to go together will it break up because the morality,ethics and law currently will hold sway when it is every dog for himself.

Remember the police consider themselves the worlds biggest gang and you are the enemy against which they fight, they dont help you, just look in news if you dont believe me yes here in canada too. You think a police with a starving family wont be like you would if your family needs things to survive? Would never think of using service issue for that either..... just like you seeing attacker with knife and drop your gun so fair fight right?

How many of you go to range and think plinking a non moving target with earmuffs makes you a good shooter when this happens? because we all know it will be like a spaghetti western draw at high noon... no one moves and the duel it out.... get real.. you are going to be scared, tired, winded , lack of sleep multi on one, in a urban environment, you think drywall will stop any bullets like in movie? You think the 2 mags you have at 10 rounds with loose ammo will give you enough to move and fight while sending suppressing fire? Of course they will let you reload and have a time out so you can do so... and you never drop things and when and if you do it is always clean so you can use it without jamming your weapon.

in really bad situation you will hunt with only a 22 because of noise and ammo... the bigger stuff only for defense period since you cant go to store and pick up more.

anyone here even try silent move at night through a wrecked building?

now back to original thread if you are worrying then you had better decide if you want to be defenseless because some official says to keep them safe from you you better hand it over what your reply will be. Katrina the next knock door kick was from armed looter gangs. If you are going to be moral then you are going to do your defending from close as you will give everyone the benefit of the doubt, that deer rifle is an expensive club, have yet to see anyone do a good job with one at targets at 20feet and under....if you have all scoped out then you will be hitting 50 yards plus that is not exactly talking range is it? I am the devils advocate here as there is too much delusional talk about things that need to be looked at from a much different perspective. All i ask is you be honest with yourself, you get one chance you are placing everyone you care about in the table when you play this hand, what is acceptable risk and what is being stupid.