There is now a confirmed case of ebola in the United States.
We do know that the patient was not showing symptoms (and supposedly not contagious) on the flight, but was showing symptoms for at least 4 days before being hospitalized, meaning that during this time, he could have passed on the virus to others.
Given that we know that the patient could have passed on the virus, and potential victims may not know they have it for up to 21 days (average incubation is 8 - 10 days), are you concerned that an outbreak is imminent here in North America?
This is a total SHTF situation....get to your BOL and lock down immediately. 2 votes,
I guess that means we'll be a couple members short!
If it lands in Mexico you can take me out of the category of several cases to that of locking down .The US south border is an out of control sieve of untrackable migrants.
If it lands in Mexico you can take me out of the category of several cases to that of locking down .The US south border is an out of control sieve of untrackable migrants.
i think you are totaly right
if mexico got ebola all america is on trouble
I am in the 'other' category. If they halt ALL further flights from stricken areas, and start screening inbound passengers, we should be be able to handle what is already here. If we keep letting any and all in without actually screening them, the critical mass of affected people will keep us in a steady supply of 'patient zeroes' to corral and contain. This is one of those times where political correctness and fear of offending has to take a backseat to public health.
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One is none, two is one.
The only thing that makes me concerned about ebola is the incubation period (8-10 days). A dirty traveler (like those filthy folks who don't wash their hands at all after using the toilets & urinals) could infect hundreds in a city if he/she were to take public transportation, and no one would know until people start showing signs more than a week later.
If the infections spread, I'll start taking precautionary (and yet practical) measures whenever I have to go out in public. Luckily, I work from home and I seldom have to go out. For one, I don't grab door handles or grip bars on buses, subway or buildings. Hands in pockets. No need to sit down. Bag never touches the ground. As soon as I get home from a trip on the subway, all of my belongings will be quarantined at the front closet. I'll strip down to my boxers, and everything goes straight into the washing machine with sodium dichloroisocyanurate tablets (work well against viruses) on a rinse cycle.
Isolating your stuff when you travel is always a good idea - just for the bedbugs if nothing else.
Africa is in trouble for sure but our health system is well prepared for an outbreak, SARS was a good test run. Keep an eye on it but we're not remotely close to the time to worry,
I have no idea why people are being allowed to still TRAVEL there , as most will need to come back after their 2 weeks ( or whenever )
vacation. If they go there, it should be clearly understood UP FRONT .. it is currently ONE-WAY.
( I'm not referring to proper government / health workers / military sent there and screened and flown back on special planes )
I would be shitting my pants if I had been on that plane , how about public transport, where else did he go
the grocery store , was he touching the produce .... it goes on and on. Did he put his hand on that coffee pot at work ?
Did he wipe his nose on his hand and touch any doorknobs ?
Travel there should have been stopped months ago , and anyone already there, coming back, should have to go into quarantine
for 21 days + couple extra days for good measure.
The news just said on CBC that EBOLA could mushroom in a month to a million people . WTF !@#!!!
I've been busy for 5 days and not paying much attention.
This could start to sound like one of those movies
Seriously , do people coming back from those countries not understand the threat they are bringing back
to unknowns, their own family , friends, neighbors, co-workers.
Some coming back are told to stay home, and then don't stay home. Did I hear that correctly ?
I guess it is no different than people that go to work when they have the flu because they want their pay cheque ?
Currently we have several crisis happening that are serious global threats . Ebola , ISIS, Ukraine/Putin
( P.S. I would like to see Russia step in and help with the ISIS crisis , might make them look better and
send some help for Ebola will ya Putin )
Having one Ebola case in Dallas ,,,, possibly 50 persons being monitored .
Well they will have to ALSO montor all those 50 peoples contacts .. MUSHROOM affect 50 x 50 and so on ..
What about all the people on board that plane ? Must be more than 50 . Did he use the washroom ?
And that is just one receiving airport . I can sit back and see more Ebola cases entering more and more
unsuspecting airports, all over the world.
Maybe to a city near you or me. And WTF was the matter with that nurse / doctor that did not decide
to immediately quarantine this person upon the symptoms and travel history. This guy suspected he had it
went to the hospital and was sent home . I am shaking my head here. Both the nurse and doctor knew
of his travel history as has now been noted.
I am currently voting
The possibility exists, but we need to watch carefully before panicking.
Goldie: I agree with you on all points!!!!!
Dang,I just spent the whole day in the bush and forgot all about Ebola 😯 I took like 3 leaks in the bush and never once washed my hands.... I guess I could have used swamp water but it was snowing and too cold to care (1st snow). I was mostly mapping a new winter snow machine trail and 1/2 aSSed scouting for for moose as season opening is soon to be here... saw 1 cow and a calf and no bow(as bow season is open) 😳 Meanwhile been bagging birds and the wife now says I can get bird flu (whaaat?). But according to her, everything has lice, tics, fleas and maybe someday even ebola 😯
I figure with the odds increasing over catching such as this, my chances of finally seeing a Sasquatch must therefore be improving too. Heck, we've got wolverines and cougars up here too but I haven't seen any of them either so far but again, my odds must be improving. I'll instead focus on the obvious inflation that I can truly see every time I go shopping. A box of Kraft Dinner is now $2.69 in the grocery store here..... crap, I'll start eating Sh1T that's good for me before I pay that price 😆
In the meantime, I'll continue calling "here moosey, mossey" just for practice until an ebola infected Sasquatch makes me too sick to play in the bush. It seems the one benefit about living so far out is that most living in populated areas would be dead before they decided to head this far out. With that and there being so few of us locals, we can easily keep track to know who is new to the area as any small community does. With stuff like this ebola spreading, we might even roll up and put away the welcome mats till further notice. 😮 😎
Knuckle, can you shop for grocery staples online ? Maybe it would be cheaper than buying local. 😆
Knuckle, can you shop for grocery staples online ? Maybe it would be cheaper than buying local. 😆
Shucks mam, that's why we own trucks and drive to the big city of Dryden or Kenora. 😀 What I save in buying 25 bags of wood pellets pays for the gas alone for the 180 mile round trip and we load up at Walmart. A run to Crappy Tire for some shiney gadget or such.... It's funny how we seem to know just how much crap we can buy before the cab is stuffed and the box is full. A quick burger at A & W and back to the bush before dark so the moose don't play tag with the headlights and ruin our day!
Still better than daily road rage and hectic living 😆
I've read a claim that was allegedly by the U.S. government saying Ebola could rise to 1.4 million by January if not quickly brought under control, and that so far the number of infected doubles every 3 weeks. WHO claims it may be at 20, 000 by November, with a 70% mortality rate, but about 10 000 will be within Liberia.
http://www.ibtimes.com/ebola-virus-could-spread-france-uk-other-european-countries-less-3-weeks-1699639
As well, there is a chance that within the next few weeks we will see it pop up in more European countries. The further it spreads, the more likely it will eventually hit home. The WHO claims banning non-essential flights will only do more harm than good, but we leave ourselves open to this chance.
Personally, I'm not panicking, but I am concerned and feel we all need to keep an eye out and be vigilant. I am trying to learn as much as possible about the virus and current epidemic, as knowledge will help reduce fear and mistakes should this escalate to home turf. I have only a basic first aid kit for my medical preps, but seeing as I feel viruses of one sort or another are our biggest enemy, I need to invest in some quality masks and gear. I found this NBC article that spells out some facts about Ebola.
Treatment is really only for the symptoms. The existing patients treated in the U.S. have all survived, but should larger numbers suddenly arrive, we will run out of those negative-pressure chambers and experimental treatments quickly, as you can bet they're not getting that in Africa. As far as prepping for dealing with potential cases goes, having a quarantine area, hazmat/PPE suits, and saline & IVs for dehydration, and other symptomatic treatment. You will also have to decide for yourself if you want to treat infected cases at all, as caregivers are at such a higher risk of infection, or if you want to take more drastic measures.
For now though, I think we all need to be calm and vigilant, but make sure we all have our plans in place, just in case.
As of today its in Spain with a 75% chance of reaching France by October 24th and the UK a 50% chance by that same date, so the BBC reported at 2100hrs tonight.
Still I believe lockdowns on flights / boats / travel needed to have already happened .
I don't believe it would make it worse , perhaps in the local region it would be worse, as
people sneek around in the dark, but they would not be on planes etc , limiting the spread
globaly and making it more a localized spread.