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Protector
Re: Where to bug out/ Community
PostFri May 12, 2017 8:16 pm
I have to keep the faith! Eventually somebody great will see what we're doing and want to be part of what we're doing.we got one family on board but distance is a real issue.
We're near Cochrane Ontario trying to live like our great grandfathers did adding anything useful from modern society we can afford.
We have over two weeks of water for six/ well/ water purification filter and tablets
Staples to last many months. Some things I get on sale like rice. Years.
We have two German pointers/ rabbits/ chickens/ quails and ducks. So meat is abundant.
We're building/ buying materials to buy more garden beds/ buildings to get more perrenial food sources.
We have over forty cords of wood and will have sixty by the end of this year. We're heat/ cooking sustainable for 3 years soon. I also have a hundred acres so getting more is a non issue.
I have a trapping cabin on 21sq kms with a few others
I have a strong young family and want my group to never have to worry about the basics.
If your in the abitibi/ Cochrane area or your like me willing to travel to meet/ greet/ maybe change your life.
Let's talk!
Eric houa at hotmail . Com
Hello
I have been looking to join a collaborative effort. All I have found is weird communes lol.
PM me if you are still looking for like minded individuals.
Hi CanMan, you need to have at least 3 post on the system before the Pm system will open up to you.. so if you want them to Pm you, you will need to make at least two more posts before they will be able to do so
http://livingmydreamlifeonthefarm.wordpress.com/
Ok. Thank You.
Update: We expanded our garden to over 2000sq ft in raised beds. Planted strawberries, asparagus, blackberries, sea buckthorn and got another gardening year under our belt in zone 2. I'm want to start creating my own wood chips/ 85% green leaves and branches to start back to eden gardening next year. We redid the house and wood shed with metal and combined with the garage have an impressive water collection system envisioned for the near future. I'm getting my buddies cache next we meet and I've already started mine at his place. Nice to know if he comes that he will have some supplies in place to help feed his family
Good for you, that is a great overview and update.. everything posted will go a long way.. good for you on the gardens and all plants put in and for learning to use your chips and leaves etc. If you are planning on adding in any smaller livestock and being in Zone 2 may I recommend that you look into tree hay and see if you have any tree's that you could start cutting this winter to create the working burls on for in the future if you need to do so 🙂 if you don't need it for critters, you can use it in your garden process for increased mass.
http://livingmydreamlifeonthefarm.wordpress.com/
Never heard of tree hay before; I'll look into it thanks. We got a few new additions here or on the way: Big buddy heater with conversion hose for 20lb propane tanks/ lots of small 1lb tanks/ 2 large ones/ plug for fan and filter/ 300 watt pure sine wave inverter for van and 11 ham radios. 3 for my MAG members family/ 6 to put away for shielding and 2 for everyday use on the land/ road. Communication is key to staying safe. Rapidsurvival.ca has good service and prices. His ham radios have 8 watts and 3800 batteries.
We also upped our life insurance and got 28 decease insurance and life insurance for the kids. Yes this is VERY important prepping. Big salary dies the wife will not be able to make it. She needs at least 50-70% of your salary for ten years. Wife dies and the man will either quit his job in sorrow or need to hire a nanny at $50,000 a year. If a kid gets leukemia somebodies got to take care of this kid 24/7. It would be normal to be so messed up both parents can't work. Also this $ is useful to get treatment in the states. Why life insurance for kids. If one dies your going to be messed up for a long time. Best to have some money live while you learn to live again. Kids are usually very healthy young so it's easy to get insurance. Get insurance that is paid off in 18-20yrs or better yet pay it off in a lump sum if you can and safeguard your families future. If you miss a payment; they can make you redo health checks which is why paying it off in a lump sum is much cheaper/ safer thing to do. 8000-10,000 is nothing to safeguard a kids future. Government gives you enough to pay a loan per kid on the 20th thanks to Trudeau. Do the same for the grandkids and every generation has a good start in life. Somebodies got to give it all so that future generations can do well. Plus it's cool to be that man in his families history. Also upped our payments from 216 to 516 or abouts and our mortgage will be paid off in five years!
Don't forget that upon death the Government takes a massive cut on most investments or assets. They call it a tax..I think its a shakedown. Things like RRSP's, homes, etc. will be severely cut into by the government. Its good to consider this as we all age...
https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738
You two arnt making sense to me....what inheritance tax? Canada doesn't have a inheritance tax that I know of. A Province might as I don't know each provinces policies. I thought I heard Ontario might have a very small one but it would be the exception in Canada if it does. Estates are wrapped up upon death just as if the person was alive and had sold their assets, capital gains are paid on assets, yes but that is not a inheritance tax, just the normal tax on a form of profit. If I am wrong please find something to point to and I will read it.
https://retirehappy.ca/estate-inheritance-tax/
Insurance, really? for medically necessary things? First good on you for being able to afford extra private insurance, I have no problem with that and if your situation allows for that great! that is not the case for everyone, not for most people and should not be needed in any developed society, You hit the nail right on the head when you say that insurance companies can make you redo health checks if you miss a payment, they can dramatically up your rates, they can deny you coverage if they declare a condition pre existing, or even find a error or omission you made, They can cap your benefits, dictate drug coverage, or even at their discretion dictate what doctors or hospital you may use.
The land of Private insurance for medical care is just down south. No other developed nation still operates that way. That nation flat lined in life expectancy a decade ago, while other nations including our own advanced, we live on average 3 years longer than a American. For 2015 and 2016 US life expectancy declined, that's unheard of in the developed world, data is not in for 2017 yet but I bet it will be the same.
I am just saying if you can afford extra coverage great, but a better long term strategy for everyone is to advocate for better health care coverage, and more inclusive coverage at that, like some basic dental.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.
You two arnt making sense to me....what inheritance tax? Canada doesn't have a inheritance tax that I know of. A Province might as I don't know each provinces policies. I thought I heard Ontario might have a very small one but it would be the exception in Canada if it does. Estates are wrapped up upon death just as if the person was alive and had sold their assets, capital gains are paid on assets, yes but that is not a inheritance tax, just the normal tax on a form of profit. If I am wrong please find something to point to and I will read it.
https://retirehappy.ca/estate-inheritance-tax/Insurance, really? for medically necessary things? First good on you for being able to afford extra private insurance, I have no problem with that and if your situation allows for that great! that is not the case for everyone, not for most people and should not be needed in any developed society, You hit the nail right on the head when you say that insurance companies can make you redo health checks if you miss a payment, they can dramatically up your rates, they can deny you coverage if they declare a condition pre existing, or even find a error or omission you made, They can cap your benefits, dictate drug coverage, or even at their discretion dictate what doctors or hospital you may use.
The land of Private insurance for medical care is just down south. No other developed nation still operates that way. That nation flat lined in life expectancy a decade ago, while other nations including our own advanced, we live on average 3 years longer than a American. For 2015 and 2016 US life expectancy declined, that's unheard of in the developed world, data is not in for 2017 yet but I bet it will be the same.
I am just saying if you can afford extra coverage great, but a better long term strategy for everyone is to advocate for better health care coverage, and more inclusive coverage at that, like some basic dental.
I don't recall mentioning an inheritance tax...but I think your article proves the point about how much the government will take upon your death if certain investments go to anyone other than your spouse. The % taken by the government when its taxed at the time of your death is staggering. In a progressive tax system the more you make and earn, the more the tax man taketh... Anyone with any semblence of a retirement fund invested should best know what will happen to it before the remainder goes to a child...and perhaps act accordingly if you get my drift.
I encourage anyone to click on Peppercorns article above and read it carefully. Definite food for thought.
As for the comments on insurance and America...that can be left for another politics thread. Correlating single variables in such a complex issue is daring......but not for this thread. Don't get me started on making others pay for poor people's insurance in a "developed" country. 🙂
https://www.internationalpreppersnetwork.net/viewtopic.php?f=57&t=7738
Insurance isn't taxed. That's why paid off insurance is the only sure way to leave $ for generations to come. I'm a nurses aid and I see Ppl all the time that make this key financial mistake. You have to give away all your wealth 5 yrs before moving into and old age home. The government facilities will charge your loved ones 2000-3000 a month until they must sell your home and your wife must move from the family home. For me step one is to be ready for emergencies up to 3 months. Then I will pay off my kids life insurance. Then in five yrs once my house is paid. I will buy another or invest in a business. Houses can be 55000 with 100 acres. Old house but it's 300 a month. Pay for as much schooling as they need and once grandkids are old enough. Pay for their insurance too. The cycle of poverty stops with me. A policy is 8-10 grand for a kid. If you have a newer car. You can afford this Np. That newer car will be worth nothing down the road. This insurance will allow generations to come to prosper. To me it's my duty. I'm different like that!
Financial literacy is in my opinion, the number one prep skill to acquire. So much good flows from making sound financial choices.
There are estate taxes in most provinces/territories, for example in Ontario they call it the estate admin tax: https://www.fin.gov.on.ca/en/tax/eat/
Plus any income tax from the last/final year.
One can reduce the tax owing on death, if a good chunk of the assets are transferred not through the formal "estate", but rather, paid via beneficiary, like for insurance (as mentioned by Protector), or held jointly like a residence, or gifted in advance, etc. When you do up a will (everyone should have one), a good lawyer or accountant should be able to point these out to you, or you can do a bunch of research like I did, depending on your own situation & family.
HopeImReady
"The thing about smart mother f*ckers, is that they sometimes sound like crazy mother f*ckers to dumb mother f*ckers." -Abraham .”
I had to re-read your post as I would have sworn you said inheritance, but I cant dispute that the word isn't there, just the word tax, So I stand corrected on that. Though it was strongly implied, other wise you have just been saying, the amount paid at death in taxes is the same as if you liquidated your assets.
I will take the liberty to re phrase you post as Such....The amount taken by the government at death in taxes is the same as if you sold your assets and I think it is too much.
It does lack dramatic effect, shows that both cases are the same, actually better in the case of death if you have a spouse, but I wont quibble.
'As for the comments on insurance and America...that can be left for another politics thread. Correlating single variables in such a complex issue is daring......but not for this thread. Don't get me started on making others pay for poor people's insurance in a "developed" country. :)'
Now there is where your wrong, its a common mistake though, Not at all a political thread but a moral one 😀 but again lets not quibble, we can both be right and agree its for another thread.
Correlating single variables in such a complex issue is daring.... it is, I will give you that using a single variable as I did may not be fully accurate in causation but much as a flasher gets a thrill at opening his trench coat and watching the reaction, I get the same entertainment value making a bold claim, often against the Americans and seeing who blushes :)and how much.
Give a man a gun, and he can rob a bank. Give a man a bank, and he can rob the world.

