Hello Sylvie,

I'm not aware of any herbal substitute for Epi. Application of a cool compress and a paste made of baking soda/water will help getting relief at the injection site but does nothing for the anaphylactic reaction.

I wouldn't hesitate to use an expired Epipen with the following caveats:

1) liquid is clear and has no visible sediments (no idea how long it remains in its condition after expiry) and
2) expired meds may not be as potent as fresh ones so another dose may be required

Though not as ideal as Epi, in a dire situation you may be able to handle the situation with Benadryl. Chew the tablet for faster absorption.

Probably the most important thing for you will be prevention. Be aware of where stinging insects can be located and avoid the areas. Avoid leaving sweet items outdoor and keep garbage cans closed. Avoid planting flowers that attract bees. Some people are lucky and can go their whole life without being stung once, strive to be such a person.

Thank you helicopilot.

I am always very aware of my surroundings, even when deep wood's camping. I also always make sure to have Benadryl and reactine with me. I did not know I could chew them for faster acting absorption. That is really good to know.

I checked on my old Epipen and it looks fine.
Thank you very much for your imput.

Most tablets can be chewed for faster absorbtion like Gravol when nauseated or Tylenol for a headache. Most taste real awful though...

That's why people in suspected heart attack situations are told to chew an Aspirin (hopefully they have the flavored "kid" ones). Aspirin is know. To be a clot thinner and by chewing it, it considerably hasten the process.

Hello! I've got a question! What area and field are you competent in? Cause I have a lot of issues with my health!

Hello! I've got a question! What area and field are you competent in? Cause I have a lot of issues with my health!

Hello there. Helicopterpilot and I "consult" this part of the forums on behalf of the forum Owner. While both of us have applicable background to assist in this (and many people on the forum in general have a wealth of information also!)...if your looking specifically for diagnosis and/or treatments the best bet is to get hold of a health professional directly. Physician, etc.

If your looking for some info or questions prepping related in how to handle health issues during a crisis you've come to the right forum! 🙂 Ifyour looking for ideas by all means please ask and everyone on this forum will do there best to help. But specific diagnosis and treatment...definitely get hold of a Dr.

What are people’s thoughts on natural asthma meds ? I believe 25% suffer from this.
Thanks

What are people’s thoughts on natural asthma meds ? I believe 25% suffer from this.
Thanks

There are a lot of different triggers for Asthma, and two main types so the treatment can range also. So what drugs do what can vary depending on an individual.

Not sure where your at, but in Canada the overall average is less than 10% who suffer/diagnosed with Asthma.

Are you talking about anti inflammatories and the like? Or preventative measures?

To replace ventolin, singular and Flovent
Faced death five times so it’s a big issue.

Appreciate the feedback. Cheers

Sorry, this is outside my knowledge base. I don't want to steer you wrong. There are a bunch of "natural" recommendations, but none have any reliable evidence to say they work. A lot of anecdotal out there saying "it worked for me." Not to say they wouldn't help (be it a placebo, or something that would specifically help you), but nothing that your physician probably hasn't already told you about.

Your Dr. will be able to tell you specifically what will help with your specific condition (ventolin is prescribed for a variety of conditions). Be it fresh air, heat, steam, etc. to relieve symptoms. They can talk about more "exotic" things like eucalyptus, breathing techniques, etc...but there profession demands they only recommend things that have solid evidence they work...

I know this isn't the answer your looking for, but if your asthma has been severe enough where its been a near death emergency, and your using preventative medication with steroids like Flovent there might not be anything "natural" that can really match or come close to this type of treatment. Perhaps your GP can refer you to a specialist who can offer more information. You should be able to tell them your concerns and get feedback.

ok, google and find the study's done in Germany and such in regards to what stinging nettles can do in a general sense in regards to be used as a herbal Antihistamine. if you like what you read.. try it.. see if it work for you or not

I agree with crowns own, its really up to how your body reacts and works and it should be done with your doctor's help

Thank you crownsown and fargal, appreciate it.
I use many natural remedies and have been since 90,s
I tried some naturalpath meds in the past and gave up but will give it another go. Thanks again. Cheers

ok, google and find the study's done in Germany and such in regards to what stinging nettles can do in a general sense in regards to be used as a herbal Antihistamine. if you like what you read.. try it.. see if it work for you or not

I agree with crowns own, its really up to how your body reacts and works and it should be done with your doctor's help

Can you cite the study's done in Germany. I can't find anything with a google search specifically from Germany, or that shows any conclusive research. A lot of "mays" and "mights."

let me see what I can do to track it back down, its at least three computers ago, I was hunting out studies on elderberries and black chokeberry stats at the time and I found a study in the same data base on the nettles.. hmmm,, that must be close to 12 years ago now.. maybe I might have links in the refernace as well in my English book on 101 uses for nettles for health studies as well.

Wanted to drop in to tease Crownsown for sending me down the rabbit hole last night for about an hour before I laughed and went I have things I must get done LOL.. PubMed had 500 plus studies when I googled Stinging Nettles and boy has there been some really interesting new studies done it.. for the men.. the double blind studies in regards to prostrate health are very interesting and the new ones that are coming out in regards to it being able be used to help control micro's needs way! way more reading for me to even grasp what they are talking about as they are looking to apply it to ag sector.

and I found a couple smaller studies on a few other things but what I did find was very interesting was the it was the roots and in some cases it was the seeds that seemed to have much higher effects in the studies over the leaves, which is interesting because before I went down the rabbit hole last night, I have always been working with the leaves and a small amount with the roots and the seeds not so much (other then for the livestock use, if you have a momma in milk, dried nettle leaves, stalk and seeds appears to increase milk yield, I have tracked it in my own sheep larger case study if you want to look at it that way and in a smaller way with goats (I just don't have the same number of milking goats so smaller sample 🙂 over the years..

But of course the one blasted study I wanted to find.. not yet.. will try again later today after I get chores and my work day done.. Thanks Crown for making me dig, I am clearly way behind on my study on this plant.. they have been busy with it over the past tens years!

Its not that pressing. 🙂 I'm interested in seeing whats out there. But take your time. lol. Life takes priority over TCO's idle curiosity. 🙂

(I'm looking for conclusive studies btw. I've seen all kinds of studies which show some single correlations, and studies which recommend further study, but nothing with repeatable evidence that can conclude something concrete. At least not from a real research institute. All kinds of "integrative medicine" and "natural healthcare" sites which purport to cure cancer, etc. with the stuff...)